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#136612 3-Dec-2013 12:49
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I was just reading that Voda/2D supports the 3G WCDMA 2100 and Telecom supports 950 and 2100.  Is the 2100 only in the larger cities?  Would a European phone ie a 900/2100 WCDMA handset work with Telecom everywhere?

PS.  I thought 2D/Voda supported 900 WCDMA too or was that just their 2G's?  At least on the Vodafone website (UMTS/HSPDA).

Anyone know the freq of their 4G as well too while at it?

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  #944682 3-Dec-2013 12:53
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Telecom: 4G - 1800, 3G - 850/2100

VF: 4G - 1800, 3G - 900/2100, 2G - 900/1800

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  #944688 3-Dec-2013 13:02
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If you buy a phone for Telecom that doesn't support 850MHz 3G you're gonna have a bad time.


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  #944689 3-Dec-2013 13:02
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Telecom 2100 is generally infill (capacity) only so a 900/2100 WCDMA handset will not work with Telecom everywhere. General coverage for Telecom is 850.

2Degrees and Vodafone have 900/2100 WCDMA coverage. On the Vodafone coverage maps 900 3G coverage is called "3G extended" and 2100 just "3G"

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  #944698 3-Dec-2013 13:11
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qraider: Telecom: 4G - 1800, 3G - 850/2100

VF: 4G - 1800, 3G - 900/2100, 2G - 900/1800

So is this 4G only for the net?  If one had a 4G handset - they both use 1800 would they be able to consume voice/text/data with both carriers?

Also thanks to the rest of ya :) So 900Mhz it is preferred to 2100 for Voda.

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  #944705 3-Dec-2013 13:23
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I'm pretty sure 4G is for everything, but keep in mind availability is VERY limited at the moment and the bands it's currently available on, probably aren't the bands it's going to be widely available on.

If you want telecom everywhere in the country you need 850, if you want vodafone everywhere in the country you need 900.

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  #944706 3-Dec-2013 13:25
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Currently 4G is only for packet switched data i.e. Internet.  Voice calls fallback to 3G.

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  #944710 3-Dec-2013 13:29
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Thanks :D

One last thing, I was reading Vodafone:

When you get to remote areas if 3G fails you get the 2G and that is 900/1800. Maybe 900 a bit more covered than 1800. Sweet. If we limit connction only to 3G. Would Vodafone have more coverage with the 2100 - wouldn't the WCDMA 900 (3G extended) be in fewer areas?


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  #944727 3-Dec-2013 13:52
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No on Vodafone the 3G on 900 would be more extensive than the 2100. Initially the 2100 was deployed in the major towns and cities and 900 in the more rural areas, however in the last couple of years they have also been rolling out 900 3G in the cities.

On 2degrees most recent sites have been 3G at both 900 and 2100 (but the 900 would have better coverage characteristics). Early sites (Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Queenstown) only had 3G at 2100 initially, but I understand that 2degrees is also rolling out 3G coverage at 900 in these areas.

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  #944729 3-Dec-2013 13:52

Hey there,

 Lots of work has been done recently to increase coverage nationwide, including main centres, using 900MHz 3G in tandem with the 1800MHz 4G LTE rollout. If your phone supports 900 & 2100 (& not 850MHz), you'll get the best experience on Vodafone NZ. :)

If you have a look at the coverage maps here, you can see the 2100MHz coverage vs. 900MHz coverage by hitting 'check your coverage' under the 2G/3G tab, then toggling between 3G Broadband (2100) & 3G Broadband Extended (900). There's more coverage & capacity lighting up on a daily basis, so the maps may be a little out of date.

Hope that helps!

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  #944762 3-Dec-2013 14:48
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qraider: Telecom: 4G - 1800, 3G - 850/2100

VF: 4G - 1800, 3G - 900/2100, 2G - 900/1800

So is this 4G only for the net?  If one had a 4G handset - they both use 1800 would they be able to consume voice/text/data with both carriers?

4G is used for mobile data only. Voice is still over 3G. 

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