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# 57134 3-Feb-2010 21:44
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hey, dont you think its a bit wasteful when you change providers that you have to get an entire new sim? cant they just re load the information on it?


duno just a thought.





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  # 295846 3-Feb-2010 21:54
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They can't just load the info on it, there's a lot of stuff on the SIM specific to the network.

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  # 295861 3-Feb-2010 22:27
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You think operators are going to Share KI strings?? hahahahahahaha

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  # 295869 3-Feb-2010 22:54
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well, i dont know what they are... but why not? think about the environment here, should we be wasting as little as possible?





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  # 295873 3-Feb-2010 23:00
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It will never happen the security behind a SIM is massive



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  # 295874 3-Feb-2010 23:01
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why? lol





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  # 295875 3-Feb-2010 23:01
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Minimal waste in a sim. More of a waste is that some operators (cough vodafone cough) dont let you reuse a perfectly good but old one and make you spend 30 bucks on another if you wish to be able to give them more money in the future.




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  # 295880 3-Feb-2010 23:10
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pick on something bigger than a SIM?

 
 
 
 




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  # 295881 3-Feb-2010 23:14
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true, gota start somewhere though :)





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  # 295884 3-Feb-2010 23:26
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richms: Minimal waste in a sim. More of a waste is that some operators (cough vodafone cough) dont let you reuse a perfectly good but old one and make you spend 30 bucks on another if you wish to be able to give them more money in the future.


in some cases vodafone do I even offered to you direct in one case and you turned it down

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  # 295892 3-Feb-2010 23:44
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That's great for me on here, but for the general populous who walk into a retail store and have to front up $30 getting on with vodafone and have to discard the old one (with all the excess packaging a new sim comes with) it is very wasteful.

2 degrees have done a great job with their sim packaging being pretty much as minimal as possible. My XT one came in a pretty heavy plastic clam shell which I thought was pretty wasteful.




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  # 295920 4-Feb-2010 07:09
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Cigarette butts are more of a waste issue than SIM cards, start hitting up those tobacco manufacturers about that issue.

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  # 295950 4-Feb-2010 09:25
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It would probably do more harm to the environment by having a machine at each store to be able to rewrite info on the SIM card.

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  # 296990 8-Feb-2010 10:27
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tell me about it, trying running Au and NZ ones and having to clean up the mess it leaves on your smart phone

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