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  # 1223674 27-Jan-2015 22:46
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Geektastic:  IMV pointless DX


Not sure if I agree with that - DX / APS-c is by far the most widely used format in interchangeable lens digital cameras, and has been since the first "affordable" DSLRs appeared.
It has been a de-facto standard format since the early 2000s.  



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  # 1223756 28-Jan-2015 08:47
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Geektastic: Nikon do not claim much in the way of weather sealing, period. Unlike Olympus etc. who do for the EM1.


With the EM1 you need to use the more expensive f/2.8 zooms to take advantage of weather sealing, but at least Olympus are upfront about what is or isn't able to be used in inclement weather. The same applies to the new Fujifilm gear. I am still baffled as to why the moisture resistance of the D7100 is promoted despite there being no suitable lenses - it seems a bit misleading.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1223759 28-Jan-2015 08:51
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Fred99:
Geektastic:  IMV pointless DX


Not sure if I agree with that - DX / APS-c is by far the most widely used format in interchangeable lens digital cameras, and has been since the first "affordable" DSLRs appeared.
It has been a de-facto standard format since the early 2000s.  


Agreed. A full frame body is too big and heavy for me, especially when coupled with a lens with decent telephoto range. Mirrorless is appealing but many of the offerings in the marketplace have awkward handling due to them being too small, and some of the smaller sensors are a bit noise prone. APS-C is a good compromise.

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  # 1223770 28-Jan-2015 09:26
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alasta:
Geektastic: Nikon do not claim much in the way of weather sealing, period. Unlike Olympus etc. who do for the EM1.


With the EM1 you need to use the more expensive f/2.8 zooms to take advantage of weather sealing, but at least Olympus are upfront about what is or isn't able to be used in inclement weather. The same applies to the new Fujifilm gear. I am still baffled as to why the moisture resistance of the D7100 is promoted despite there being no suitable lenses - it seems a bit misleading.


marketing gimmick? happens with most other products too not just nikon SLRs




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  # 1223787 28-Jan-2015 09:41
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I switched to digital with a Canon 30D about eight years ago, and had to abandon shooting a dusty motocross meeting after a couple of hours because the controls were becoming graunchy.  They came right after a good going over with the vacuum cleaner, but it had worried for a while.

I only have pro gear now with 1D bodies and L lenses, but I still try not to get them too wet.  One thing that worries me is the metal interface between lens and body.  There is no o-ring, and at least one of my lenses (70-200mm f2.5L IS) actually feels loose on the camera.  ISTM that capillary attraction would cause water ingress via that joint.

The original Canon 100-400mm, with its push/pull zoom action, was known for pulling dust inside, and suffer from mold in hot climates.  There again, it seems inevitable that changing the internal volume of a lens by getting on for a litre, is going to suck stuff inside.  As Scotty said 'Ye cannae change the laws o' physics".

On the other hand, I've seen young Ricky — he who wore out a 60D in two months — semi immerse a 7D and 70-200mm in a lake to get a low angle shot.  We all looked at him with raised eyebrows, and he said 'What?  They are meant to do stuff like that.'  Lens and camera were fine, so perhaps he was right.




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  # 1223816 28-Jan-2015 10:09
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He must have rich parents?




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  # 1223970 28-Jan-2015 12:05
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Fred99:
Geektastic:  IMV pointless DX


Not sure if I agree with that - DX / APS-c is by far the most widely used format in interchangeable lens digital cameras, and has been since the first "affordable" DSLRs appeared.
It has been a de-facto standard format since the early 2000s.  


For the simple reason that when DSLRs were invented, making an FX chip was either too hard, too expensive or both.

They would simply have gone from 36mm film to 36mm sensors if it was feasible at that time and DX etc would never have existed in DSLRs (in compacts, yes).

Now they make cheap FX cameras (D610 etc) and there is not great reason to bother with DX.





 
 
 
 


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  # 1223971 28-Jan-2015 12:06
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TLD: I switched to digital with a Canon 30D about eight years ago, and had to abandon shooting a dusty motocross meeting after a couple of hours because the controls were becoming graunchy.  They came right after a good going over with the vacuum cleaner, but it had worried for a while.

I only have pro gear now with 1D bodies and L lenses, but I still try not to get them too wet.  One thing that worries me is the metal interface between lens and body.  There is no o-ring, and at least one of my lenses (70-200mm f2.5L IS) actually feels loose on the camera.  ISTM that capillary attraction would cause water ingress via that joint.

The original Canon 100-400mm, with its push/pull zoom action, was known for pulling dust inside, and suffer from mold in hot climates.  There again, it seems inevitable that changing the internal volume of a lens by getting on for a litre, is going to suck stuff inside.  As Scotty said 'Ye cannae change the laws o' physics".

On the other hand, I've seen young Ricky — he who wore out a 60D in two months — semi immerse a 7D and 70-200mm in a lake to get a low angle shot.  We all looked at him with raised eyebrows, and he said 'What?  They are meant to do stuff like that.'  Lens and camera were fine, so perhaps he was right.


 

Do the Canon ones not have the Nikon "ass gasket"?





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  # 1223973 28-Jan-2015 12:08
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alasta:
Geektastic: Nikon do not claim much in the way of weather sealing, period. Unlike Olympus etc. who do for the EM1.


With the EM1 you need to use the more expensive f/2.8 zooms to take advantage of weather sealing, but at least Olympus are upfront about what is or isn't able to be used in inclement weather. The same applies to the new Fujifilm gear. I am still baffled as to why the moisture resistance of the D7100 is promoted despite there being no suitable lenses - it seems a bit misleading.


The AW 1 is the only waterproof Nikon with interchangeable lenses made today.





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  # 1223976 28-Jan-2015 12:13
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alasta:
Fred99:
Geektastic:  IMV pointless DX


Not sure if I agree with that - DX / APS-c is by far the most widely used format in interchangeable lens digital cameras, and has been since the first "affordable" DSLRs appeared.
It has been a de-facto standard format since the early 2000s.  


Agreed. A full frame body is too big and heavy for me, especially when coupled with a lens with decent telephoto range. Mirrorless is appealing but many of the offerings in the marketplace have awkward handling due to them being too small, and some of the smaller sensors are a bit noise prone. APS-C is a good compromise.


The weight is a non issue. The difference in weight between a D7100 and a D610 is only 85g - less than a chocolate bar!





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  # 1223978 28-Jan-2015 12:15
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It's now called the d750 :)




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  # 1224051 28-Jan-2015 14:10
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joker97: It's now called the d750 :)


Different camera... 
There's still about $1,000 price difference between similar spec FX and DX models (ie D750 and D7100).


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  # 1224103 28-Jan-2015 14:48
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Fred99:
joker97: It's now called the d750 :)


Different camera... 
There's still about $1,000 price difference between similar spec FX and DX models (ie D750 and D7100).



that's why one should't buy a new D610. O.B.S.O.L.E.T.E.




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  # 1224278 28-Jan-2015 18:42
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I had a look at my 55-300mm Nikon lens last night and it has the rubber gasket at the back. I still wouldn't use it in the rain without an umbrella. :)

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  # 1224305 28-Jan-2015 19:47
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take new world plastic bag. cut hole. screw filter on. bravo.

but that's not what i do. just a suggestion.




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