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# 213890 17-Apr-2017 17:02
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Hello,

 

Our back garage is used as a sleepout, ceiling and walls have been insulated, windows about to be DIY double glazed. Wondering if anyone has insulated a garage tilt door?

 

I see that Expol supply sectional door insulation (sourced through Mitre10 and/or Bunnings), thinking i could maybe use that - glue the panels on?

 

Searched the net and sectional doors are catered for but cannot find tilt door solutions?

 

Any help much appreciated.





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  # 1765369 17-Apr-2017 17:07
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We did sectional which doesn't help you much. It made a big difference in our garage (along with ceiling insulation)

 

Maybe contact Expol about it? We contacted them years ago about something and they were good.

 

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  # 1765370 17-Apr-2017 17:11
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hairy1:

 

We did sectional which doesn't help you much. It made a big difference in our garage (along with ceiling insulation)

 

Maybe contact Expol about it? We contacted them years ago about something and they were good.

 

Cheers, Matt

 

 

Cheers Matt will flick them an email.





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  # 1765384 17-Apr-2017 18:07
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I would have expected it to be a very similar setup, just with larger pieces of insulation?

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  # 1765385 17-Apr-2017 18:08
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I would have expected it to be a very similar setup, just with larger pieces of insulation?

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  # 1765397 17-Apr-2017 19:09
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Tilt ones dont seal as well so you might be doing all the insulation for nothing if there are still gaps around it.





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  # 1765401 17-Apr-2017 19:19
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richms:

 

Tilt ones dont seal as well so you might be doing all the insulation for nothing if there are still gaps around it.

 

 

Garage currently used as a sleepout so door not intended to be used like normal. There are a few gaps around the side edges, was thinking if similar to sectional door insulation then overlap past the edges to cover said gaps.





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DamageInc:

 

richms:

 

Tilt ones dont seal as well so you might be doing all the insulation for nothing if there are still gaps around it.

 

 

Garage currently used as a sleepout so door not intended to be used like normal. There are a few gaps around the side edges, was thinking if similar to sectional door insulation then overlap past the edges to cover said gaps.

 

 

If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it and whack some framing timber in the hole, clad inside and out with insulation and/or with a normal door and/or windows. Remove the tilt door and store it - so it could be relatively easily converted back into garage at some future time.


 
 
 
 


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Fred99:

 

 

 

If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it .

 

 

Solution I have seen others use in this case is kind of like Fred said but keep the door for looks and reversibility and build a false wall just inside it for coziness.

 

 




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  # 1766403 17-Apr-2017 20:03
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elpenguino:

Fred99:


 


If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it .



Solution I have seen others use in this case is kind of like Fred said but keep the door for looks and reversibility and build a false wall just inside it for coziness.


 


That is definitely an option, done in a way that it could easily be removed if needed




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  # 1766404 17-Apr-2017 20:07
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elpenguino:

Fred99:

 

 

 

If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it .

 

 

Solution I have seen others use in this case is kind of like Fred said but keep the door for looks and reversibility and build a false wall just inside it for coziness.

 

 

 

 

I just logged in to suggest that. Helped a friend of mine (a motivated DIYer) slap in some framing and gib board for the same purpose. Then again, he makes anything look easy, compared to me : )

 


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DamageInc:
elpenguino:

 

Fred99:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it .

 

 

 

 

 

 

Solution I have seen others use in this case is kind of like Fred said but keep the door for looks and reversibility and build a false wall just inside it for coziness.

 

 

 

 

 


That is definitely an option, done in a way that it could easily be removed if needed

 

You could do that I guess...

 

Normally a tilt door when closed, the door sits flush against the flashings, so it's flush against the interior wall with an exterior reveal.  You'd need to frame the entire interior wall where the door is, insulate then put up gib. Otherwise, it's going to look awful IMO.

 

You'd also need to flash somehow between the door panel and jambs, and at the bottom - as water will get blown in and into the insulation, the whole thing will get damp and rot out.

 

Also, you'd probably want to get rid of the door arms, tracks, and auto opener - as they'll be an eyesore at least, and you certainly don't want to leave fully extended springs hidden away ready to go bang one day and take your head off.

 

To be honest, I think it would be easier to remove the door, frame out inside the door opening, then line from the inside. Attaching framing to the existing jambs using screws (tek screws or bugle-head batten screws, use concrete screws to anchor a bottom plate - so when you remove this to revert to garage, then you've only got to unscrew stuff, fill a few holes, and reinstall the door.

 

All this probably completely illegal in terms of conversion of a garage to a "sleepout", so at least if you do it reversibly and reasonably durably , if you get nailed by council you can say sorry, convert it back and avoid prosecution.


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  # 1766413 17-Apr-2017 20:37
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LesF:
elpenguino:

Fred99:


 


If that's going to render the door inoperable, then I'd probably "semi-permanently"  get rid of it .



Solution I have seen others use in this case is kind of like Fred said but keep the door for looks and reversibility and build a false wall just inside it for coziness.


 



I just logged in to suggest that. Helped a friend of mine (a motivated DIYer) slap in some framing and gib board for the same purpose. Then again, he makes anything look easy, compared to me : )


Is that legal though to convert a garage into a habitable room without consent? Garages may not be considered habitable home spaces, and they may have different ground to floor clearances. I would have thought such a change of use would require a council consent. Otherwise potential issues down the track with insurance and selling the house.

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