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#885467 27-Aug-2013 18:58

Morgenmuffel: Has anyone tried the LED lights from the Warehouse?

Brand and price? So fasr the best I have found, and at the best price are the philips. Picked up a 13 watt one from pacnslave for $25, which is about 75 watt, and it has really good colour and brightness. Probably the best LED light quality and quantity I have seen from domestic bulbs. But they do get hot.

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#885487 27-Aug-2013 19:15

Anyone seen anything bigger than 12w in a e27 cool white anywhere?

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#885512 27-Aug-2013 20:00

mattwnz:
Morgenmuffel: Has anyone tried the LED lights from the Warehouse?

Brand and price? So fasr the best I have found, and at the best price are the philips. Picked up a 13 watt one from pacnslave for $25, which is about 75 watt, and it has really good colour and brightness. Probably the best LED light quality and quantity I have seen from domestic bulbs. But they do get hot.

Edapt is the brand
http://search.thewarehouse.co.nz/search?p=Q&lbc=thewarehouse&uid=170101269&ts=custom&w=Energy%20Saving%20Light%20Bulbs&af=&method=and&view=grid&isort=price+rev

I have a 10w Panasonic above me at the moment (75w equivalent) and i quite like the colour, doesn't feel to hot either, although it has only been on an hour and the weather is cool at the moment.

The other question I have is,

Are there any suitable for damp/warm/moist environments eg the bathroom where it gets a touch steamy.

Main reason i ask is the cheap Viribrights i have in the hallway/dunny/laundry/etc seem to be filling up with dead midges (which is cheaper than spraying but not ideal), and I am guessing if midges can get inside, then so can moisture.

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#885519 27-Aug-2013 20:22

mattwnz:
MattR: Wonder if its any good.

Philips 8 w ones from bunnings are cheaper, only $19, and they are a top brand and they produce good quality light. Don't know why people would go for a non brand at that price.

Yeah, I can say I have tested many different bulbs now. Orbit, Viribright, Philips and generics. All of them were unacceptable for me except for the Philips. The Philips were clearly better for diffusion and light quality. The others had green or pink hues, were too dim, or too harsh or flickered.

I understand there are some Panasonic LEDs floating around and I will give them a try, but beyond that I won't buy anything other than Philips when it comes to replacement-style bulbs.

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#885635 28-Aug-2013 01:17

Morgenmuffel:
Edapt is the brand
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They look like a rebadged noname brand. There are heaps that look similar to that, and the philips are the same price, so I am not sure why someone would choose that over a philips one. Retailers probably make smaller margins on Philips ones.

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#886523 29-Aug-2013 14:05

I've just picked up two of the Viribright PAR38s for my driveway sensor light. That light is going off all night due to cats roaming around.

I've also replaced a couple of CA-rated downlights with IC-rated Orbit 12w LED fittings, so far so good - I've already noticed the room retaining heat better.
http://www.orbitlighting.co.nz/product-catalogue/indoor-lighting/led-indoor-lights/12w-int-led-dl-white-ww

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#886526 29-Aug-2013 14:13

MattR: I've just picked up two of the Viribright PAR38s for my driveway sensor light. That light is going off all night due to cats roaming around.

I've also replaced a couple of CA-rated downlights with IC-rated Orbit 12w LED fittings, so far so good - I've already noticed the room retaining heat better.
http://www.orbitlighting.co.nz/product-catalogue/indoor-lighting/led-indoor-lights/12w-int-led-dl-white-ww

Consumer did a review on LEDs, and I recall it saying that the viribright ones lost quite a lot of their intensity over time, went from 7 to 5 after 1000 hours, unlike other brands which didn't lose any. I will be interested to see the panasonic ones, but haven't seen any.
They also rated orbit lights, but they didn't rate that well, and didn't have a star next to the,. Not a fan of all on one fittings and bulbs, because of what do you do when one fails and that model no longer exists, do you end up with a fitting that doesn't match or do you have to replace them all so they match, plus having to rewire up a new one. You can get IC rated E27 downlighter fittings now which you can just install E27 LED bulbs, which I think is both cheaper and better in the long run, plus less waste.

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#886612 29-Aug-2013 16:09

mattwnz:You can get IC rated E27 downlighter fittings now.

Any recommendation or links? Thanks.

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#886637 29-Aug-2013 16:58

mattwnz:
MattR: I've just picked up two of the Viribright PAR38s for my driveway sensor light. That light is going off all night due to cats roaming around.

I've also replaced a couple of CA-rated downlights with IC-rated Orbit 12w LED fittings, so far so good - I've already noticed the room retaining heat better.
http://www.orbitlighting.co.nz/product-catalogue/indoor-lighting/led-indoor-lights/12w-int-led-dl-white-ww

Consumer did a review on LEDs, and I recall it saying that the viribright ones lost quite a lot of their intensity over time, went from 7 to 5 after 1000 hours, unlike other brands which didn't lose any. I will be interested to see the panasonic ones, but haven't seen any.
They also rated orbit lights, but they didn't rate that well, and didn't have a star next to the,. Not a fan of all on one fittings and bulbs, because of what do you do when one fails and that model no longer exists, do you end up with a fitting that doesn't match or do you have to replace them all so they match, plus having to rewire up a new one. You can get IC rated E27 downlighter fittings now which you can just install E27 LED bulbs, which I think is both cheaper and better in the long run, plus less waste.

What was the final verdict from Consumer.org review? I can't justify subscribing just to read that one article. What did they say were the winners?

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#886671 29-Aug-2013 17:56

I was going to buy an Orbit until someone here mentioned it does not look nearly as good as the Philips fittings. Orbit is the size of my cut-out, Philips needs a 5mm larger hole. Bummer... Might have to make an adapter for a hole saw to use the existing hole as a guide, or pull out the multi tool, or just try out an Orbit fitting (which is not as bright).

Regarding fittings going obsolete, just fit in multiple rooms and if say one lounge fitting fails then swap it out with a bedroom fitting. Good fallback for "if" the (quality brand name) fitting goes obsolete.

Regarding IC rated recessed bulb fittings, they let the bulb run much hotter than it normally would so the bulb will not last as long. Philips specifically says not to fit their LED bulbs in enclosed fittings.

Regarding IC rated LED units, I would be tempted to still not cover them with insulation as it is better to run LEDs at a lower temperature. But cutting the ventilation you already save lots. But then again, Auckland does not get that cold.

The Philips LED units look like they can be opened if they fail, to repair the power supply...

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#886682 29-Aug-2013 18:39

I've had 8w Viribrights for about 18 months now, no regrets. No failures outside the first week bathtub curve.

My main objective with the Orbits was to get something IC rated in there, and they have the same cutout size as my existing fittings. We don't actually use those lights much at all (which is why they still had CFLs in them). My wife didn't even realise we had lights in 2 of the 3 locations.

If they get half way to the expected 30,000hrs, it'll be in another 40 years.

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#886698 29-Aug-2013 19:04

MattR, are you happy with the colour light of the Orbit fitting?

I'm also running only Viribright 8W for about 1 1/2 years, but had a few more fail where one of the 6 LED blocks occasionally flicker. I just swap them with ones we seldom use as I have determined it is still safe, only about 35V on the paralleled LED blocks. At 5h/day the payback for me is less than 6 months so I'm still happy.

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#886702 29-Aug-2013 19:09

I've had them less than a week, but so far so good.

One is in the stairwell, and the other two are in the hallway at the top of the stairs. Our heatpump is in the living room, and points directly at the stairs, so the heat just goes straight up the stairs, which is why I wanted to seal off those lights.

My wife likes the look of them, and the light they put out is perfectly fine. I've only tried the 12w, didn't bother with the 9w. There's also a 5w with a smaller diameter.

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#886714 29-Aug-2013 19:33

How much do the Orbit ones cost?

They ones I got from Lighting direct that are around $60 each now and are still going strong, and they're flush with the ceiling so they have a wide spread. They're IC rated as well, of course. I've linked to them a bunch of times already. There's a dimmable version now.

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#886717 29-Aug-2013 19:39

$80, from memory.

The lighting direct ones don't have my cutout size - they're all smaller :(

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