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  #1013709 27-Mar-2014 10:19
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KiwiNZ:
Buzz Bumble:

bazzer:
Buzz Bumble: On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most.


Constellation -> Greville?


Tristram to Constellation over bridge (the merge is on the overbridge). They've started work on making it three lanes through to Albany Highway or Othea Valley.





blakamin: THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.


And here we have the typical selfish attitude responsible for 90% of the roads hoon and bad driving problems. :-\




Then explain how it is safer? when coming around a blind bend at say 90km/h and encounter a car in front of you only doing 60km/h. Again explain how this is safer under your premise, travelling along SH1 and you get behind a car doing 60km/h, unable to pass but constantly having to flash your brakes to slow approaching vehicles behind you so you don't get tail ended by a car travelling 100km/h.



I feel your pain. I have to say I have seen so many drivers ignoring a reasonable speed and sticking to 60kph on an open road. Its frustrating and dangerous. Maybe making certain age groups resit their test should be compulsary. Actually that comment sounds ageist and I'm indicating it is our older generation driving like nana's on the road, but most of the one's I see are quite old!

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  #1013727 27-Mar-2014 10:32
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There is a retest requirement at 75 if your Doctor who must give you medical clearence deems it appropriate. Personally if I feel I am unable to drive safely I will cancel my own licence before that time if needed, which is a loooong way off 




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  #1013729 27-Mar-2014 10:35
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KiwiNZ: There is a retest requirement at 75 if your Doctor who must give you medical clearence deems it appropriate. Personally if I feel I am unable to drive safely I will cancel my own licence before that time if needed, which is a loooong way off 



I agree with you there...perhaps it should be brought forward. On the other hand, I have a friends dad, age 92 who teaches his friends how to drive for their tests!

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  #1013732 27-Mar-2014 10:36
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KiwiNZ: Then explain how it is safer? when coming around a blind bend at say 90km/h and encounter a car in front of you only doing 60km/h. Again explain how this is safer under your premise, travelling along SH1 and you get behind a car doing 60km/h, unable to pass but constantly having to flash your brakes to slow approaching vehicles behind you so you don't get tail ended by a car travelling 100km/h.

If the car behind you can't stop then aren't they the unsafe driver? Shouldn't you only drive as fast as the road in front of you dictates? What if there is some other "invisible" hazard around the blind bend?

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  #1013742 27-Mar-2014 10:46
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KiwiNZ: Then explain how it is safer? when coming around a blind bend at say 90km/h and encounter a car in front of you only doing 60km/h. Again explain how this is safer under your premise, travelling along SH1 and you get behind a car doing 60km/h, unable to pass but constantly having to flash your brakes to slow approaching vehicles behind you so you don't get tail ended by a car travelling 100km/h.

If the car behind you can't stop then aren't they the unsafe driver? Shouldn't you only drive as fast as the road in front of you dictates? What if there is some other "invisible" hazard around the blind bend?


You are on an open road driving at the speed limit a car travelling considerably below that at say 60km/h is dangerous and I have been nearly tail ended because of it, are you saying we should all slow to 60k or less on all corners?  expanding that, as we are an agricultural country maybe our limit should be 50km/h everywhere a a chicken may decide to see what really is the need to cross the road.




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  #1013754 27-Mar-2014 11:08
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KiwiNZ: You are on an open road driving at the speed limit a car travelling considerably below that at say 60km/h is dangerous and I have been nearly tail ended because of it, are you saying we should all slow to 60k or less on all corners?  expanding that, as we are an agricultural country maybe our limit should be 50km/h everywhere a a chicken may decide to see what really is the need to cross the road.

I'm saying if you can't see around a corner and you don't think you could stop in time if there was something going a (relatively) small amount slower than you than maybe you aren't driving to the conditions and you should slow down a little. I'd rather slow down and drive around a blind bend at 60km and not have a problem if there is something unexpected around the corner.

I don't care about killing a chicken, shouldn't do too much damage, but what if it's a herd of cows?

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  #1013865 27-Mar-2014 13:43
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Woosh!!! Straight over the top. It's no wonder the roads are so bad. :-(

 
 
 
 


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  #1013875 27-Mar-2014 14:00
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Buzz Bumble: WOOSH!! Straight over the top ... maybe it is rocket science after all. :-\

Really? Again?

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  #1013906 27-Mar-2014 14:40
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bazzer:
Buzz Bumble: WOOSH!! Straight over the top ... maybe it is rocket science after all. :-\

Really? Again?

What does it mean?  Is it an inside joke?  Or?





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  #1014014 27-Mar-2014 17:10
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thecatsgoolies:
KiwiNZ:
Buzz Bumble:

bazzer:
Buzz Bumble: On Auckland's Northern Motorwway there's a section which has three lanes and then narrows down to two lanes, with the left-hand and centre lanes merging, but before the merge point there is a busy off-ramp. so at peak afternoon time all the lanes are usually going quite slowly. After the off-ramp the left-hand lane is usually empty, so you always get idiot hoons who move from the middle lane into the empty left lane, zoom up, and then try to push back in further up where it merges ... saving a few seconds at most.


Constellation -> Greville?


Tristram to Constellation over bridge (the merge is on the overbridge). They've started work on making it three lanes through to Albany Highway or Othea Valley.





blakamin: THEN THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE OPEN ROAD!

Stick to 50kp/h zones.


And here we have the typical selfish attitude responsible for 90% of the roads hoon and bad driving problems. :-\




Then explain how it is safer? when coming around a blind bend at say 90km/h and encounter a car in front of you only doing 60km/h. Again explain how this is safer under your premise, travelling along SH1 and you get behind a car doing 60km/h, unable to pass but constantly having to flash your brakes to slow approaching vehicles behind you so you don't get tail ended by a car travelling 100km/h.



I feel your pain. I have to say I have seen so many drivers ignoring a reasonable speed and sticking to 60kph on an open road. Its frustrating and dangerous. Maybe making certain age groups resit their test should be compulsary. Actually that comment sounds ageist and I'm indicating it is our older generation driving like nana's on the road, but most of the one's I see are quite old!


If you come round a blind bend at 90 and cannot see clearly ahead enough to stop safely, you are the one driving without due care and attention not the person doing 60.





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  #1014017 27-Mar-2014 17:15
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bazzer:
KiwiNZ: You are on an open road driving at the speed limit a car travelling considerably below that at say 60km/h is dangerous and I have been nearly tail ended because of it, are you saying we should all slow to 60k or less on all corners?  expanding that, as we are an agricultural country maybe our limit should be 50km/h everywhere a a chicken may decide to see what really is the need to cross the road.

I'm saying if you can't see around a corner and you don't think you could stop in time if there was something going a (relatively) small amount slower than you than maybe you aren't driving to the conditions and you should slow down a little. I'd rather slow down and drive around a blind bend at 60km and not have a problem if there is something unexpected around the corner.

I don't care about killing a chicken, shouldn't do too much damage, but what if it's a herd of cows?


Absolutely. Your speed should always be such that you can stop safely in the distance in which you can see in front clearly.

The road code is clear on that: it says that you may drive at any speed below the limit provided that (amongst other things):-

"you can stop in the length of clear lane you can see in front of you on a road with a centre line or lanes."





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  #1014024 27-Mar-2014 17:22
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In a 100hm/h maximum zonedriving at 50 to 60km/h without reason is extremely dangerous. If it is due to fear then stop your car(safely and let someone else drive), if it is due to an issue with the vehicle pull as far to left as posdible , have the hazard lights on and pull off the road when it can be safely done and call a breakdown service.




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  #1014092 27-Mar-2014 19:07
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Geektastic: If you come round a blind bend at 90 and cannot see clearly ahead enough to stop safely, you are the one driving without due care and attention not the person doing 60.


EXACTLY!! There is common sense and intelligence on these forums after all (I was really beginning to doubt there was) ... of course you'll never convince the selfish "me first" speed freaks and hoons that they're wrong, which is the entire problem in the first place. :-(

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  #1014099 27-Mar-2014 19:17
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Buzz Bumble

Please remind me, how; by driving well below the speed limit holding up traffic then speeding up to 100 k/h on a passing lane, which happens to be the first opportunity for the following cars to pass, thus preventing or making it difficult for those faster vehicles to get past; is in compliance with the road code.




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  #1014100 27-Mar-2014 19:17
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Buzz Bumble:
Geektastic: If you come round a blind bend at 90 and cannot see clearly ahead enough to stop safely, you are the one driving without due care and attention not the person doing 60.


EXACTLY!! There is common sense and intelligence on these forums after all (I was really beginning to doubt there was) ... of course you'll never convince the selfish "me first" speed freaks and hoons that they're wrong, which is the entire problem in the first place. :-(


I hope you both come to Australia and lose your licences. You get booked here for going under 85-90 in a 100 zone...


And I love the way you, Buzz, totally ignored the fact I bolded the bit where you said "people don't feel safe doing the speed limit." And I replied with "IF THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE, THEY SHOULDN'T BE DRIVING"

Seriously, if you don't feel safe, do everyone a favour and get off the effing road!


I'm outta this thread... too many trolling idiots.

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