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  Reply # 1923894 23-Dec-2017 08:10
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In the meantime, look for a type 1 cable to slow charge and a CCS type 1 for fast charge


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  Reply # 1924131 23-Dec-2017 16:14
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RunningMan:

 

In the meantime, look for a type 1 cable to slow charge and a CCS type 1 for fast charge

 

 

Thanks RunningMan

 

Type one slow charge ,managed to find one at Bayfair, no charge:-), excuse the pun.Type one fast are not around here any more.All been swapped over to the new standard.  Spoke to BMW, they no about the problem.


 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1931651 7-Jan-2018 09:57
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This advertisement for a BMW i3 mentions that:

 

"With guilt free zero emission driving and typical BMW sporty characteristics this car is very capable".

 

Now, is this implying that people who don't drive an electric vehicle should feel guilty?

 

In any event, the vehicle advertised has a petrol range extender, so it doesn't in fact have zero emissions when the range extender engine is operating.

 

Do you feel guilty when driving a car that has a petrol engine? Should advertisements for EVs imply that you should feel guilty if you're not driving an EV?


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  Reply # 1931671 7-Jan-2018 12:05
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@Dinga96, is this resolved for you yet?


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  Reply # 1932245 8-Jan-2018 14:32
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frednz:

 

This advertisement for a BMW i3 mentions that:

 

"With guilt free zero emission driving and typical BMW sporty characteristics this car is very capable".

 

Now, is this implying that people who don't drive an electric vehicle should feel guilty?

 

In any event, the vehicle advertised has a petrol range extender, so it doesn't in fact have zero emissions when the range extender engine is operating.

 

Do you feel guilty when driving a car that has a petrol engine? Should advertisements for EVs imply that you should feel guilty if you're not driving an EV?

 

 

We are all guilty of contributing to carbon emissions in numerous ways.   A question like that might look like a guilt trip now but will look rhetorical in 20 years when even the masses are left in no doubt that we have made an irreversible and terminal mess of our habitat.

 

Personally I feel very guilty about my already-low carbon footprint and have reduced my driving down to around 3,000 km/yr and use an eBike instead.  I am researching the options of buying either an i3 or eGolf but almost annoyingly seem to have broken the habit of needing a car as a daily driver.


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  Reply # 1932277 8-Jan-2018 15:51
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RunningMan:

 

@Dinga96, is this resolved for you yet?

 

 

Yes I have been told by the dealership they will be replacing that type 1 ccs for the new one at the end of this Month


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  Reply # 1932280 8-Jan-2018 16:03
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frednz:

 

This advertisement for a BMW i3 mentions that:

 

"With guilt free zero emission driving and typical BMW sporty characteristics this car is very capable".

 

Now, is this implying that people who don't drive an electric vehicle should feel guilty?

 

In any event, the vehicle advertised has a petrol range extender, so it doesn't in fact have zero emissions when the range extender engine is operating.

 

Do you feel guilty when driving a car that has a petrol engine? Should advertisements for EVs imply that you should feel guilty if you're not driving an EV?

 

 

We are all guilty of contributing to carbon emissions in numerous ways.   A question like that might look like a guilt trip now but will look rhetorical in 20 years when even the masses are left in no doubt that we have made an irreversible and terminal mess of our habitat.

 

Personally I feel very guilty about my already-low carbon footprint and have reduced my driving down to around 3,000 km/yr and use an eBike instead.  I am researching the options of buying either an i3 or eGolf but almost annoyingly seem to have broken the habit of needing a car as a daily driver.

 

 

If it helps move people over to the new tech, why not.I doubt many would feel guilty at all though.I think more people will be interested when Evs cost the equivalent of their Ice counterparts and no amount of guilt tripping by car manufactures will make any difference. Now if it were to come from the Government that might be different!


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  Reply # 1932285 8-Jan-2018 16:36
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frednz:

 

This advertisement for a BMW i3 mentions that:

 

"With guilt free zero emission driving and typical BMW sporty characteristics this car is very capable".

 

Now, is this implying that people who don't drive an electric vehicle should feel guilty?

 

Although to be fair, it is  blurb that has been written by a local franchised dealer, its not from a corporate publication.

 

and to be honest I suspect he just cribbed the phrase from a recent "car of the year" story on the BMW 7 series from stuff

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/top-cars/97946480/why-the-bmw-7series-is-our-top-luxury-car-of-2017

 

"In the meantime, being able to travel through the city in a full-size luxury sedan on guilt-free and utterly refined zero-emissions battery power - well, that's a pretty luxurious feeling."

 

 




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  Reply # 1942002 18-Jan-2018 13:31
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/bmw-i3-and-i8-might-not-be-replaced

 

The above article says that:

 

"The i3 (pictured below) served to showcase BMW’s method of making its first electric car and the i8 showed how electric power could enhance performance. At the end of their lifecycles, their jobs will be considered done, which is why replacements are not formally in development or in BMW’s product plan."

 

One comment on the article suggested that:

 

"It was clear from the word 'go' that both i3 and i8 were testing the water for BMW. They have done their job as guinea-pigs and now BMW (not that they will admit it publicly) will carry on with conventional ICE cars for the foreseeable future."

 

"Until the new types of batteries so often mooted by 'learned' people appear and prove to be economical, most manufacturers will keep their powder dry: customers don't really like to pay over the odds for vehicles already obsolete as they leave the show-room."

 

So, it appears that, while research continues on better batteries etc for EVs, their prices, compared to petrol vehicles, will continue to be a lot higher for some time to come because the research and development costs have to be passed on to EV buyers.

 

 


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  Reply # 1942131 18-Jan-2018 19:11
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That article is strange.

"They have done their job as guinea-pigs and now BMW (not that they will admit it publicly) will carry on with conventional ICE cars for the foreseeable future"

 

The article appears to ignore that BMW is rolling out electrified variants (mostly plug in hybrids) of every model in their range, and are already well down this track.

BMW is absolutely a market leader in this space.




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In a recent thread, it was mentioned that some insurance companies are hesitating to insure EVs, and in the case of the BMW i3, I wonder whether this may be because any damage to the carbon fibre body requires specialist knowledge and tools to repair.

 

In this article, it discusses repairs to the carbon fibre body of the i3 as follows:

 

Carbon Fiber Body: This is where repair techniques change significantly from standard cars. There is no pounding out damaged CFRP. In order to repair the i3, the damaged section will need to be cut out at one of the predefined points. These are located at the top of the A, B, C pillars as well as forward and aft of the floor pan.

 

BMW requires a specialized cutting device that looks part bone saw on the business end and part Dr Who Villain, a Dalek, to vacuum up the carbon fiber particles. Once the carbon fiber body has dis-articulated at the very specific points, the technician then places the new section on and bonds/glues it back together.

 

This is where my favorite part of the tour came. “This isn’t very complicated but it needs to be very precise,” says a BMW technician. He further added that the time it will take to repair i3 electric vehicles will actually be less than standard cars and thus decreased labor costs with auto repair.

 

Do you think BMW service agents in NZ have the experience and parts necessary to fix damage to the carbon fibre body of the i3?  I wonder whether such repairs may be quite expensive because you can't just pound out a dent?

 

I wonder whether carbon fibre dents more easily than aluminium or steel in the event of a crash, or whether it may in fact be more resilient?


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  Reply # 1960441 19-Feb-2018 16:19
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The i3 is not made of carbon fibre .The body shell is made of carbon-fiber reinforced plastic. The body panels are plastic..The  carbon-fiber reinforced plastic , is visible around the door frame area.The body panels if damaged are just replaced, I was told.Probably eye wateringly expensive to.BMW offer insurance for their vehicles.So we can assume they  can repair the monocoque structure if needed.




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  Reply # 1960631 19-Feb-2018 22:26
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Dinga96:

 

The i3 is not made of carbon fibre .The body shell is made of carbon-fiber reinforced plastic. The body panels are plastic..The  carbon-fiber reinforced plastic , is visible around the door frame area.The body panels if damaged are just replaced, I was told.Probably eye wateringly expensive to.BMW offer insurance for their vehicles.So we can assume they  can repair the monocoque structure if needed.

 

 

Thanks, I guess BMW i3 buyers have done their homework on this issue and will have discussed with BMW the various options available if an i3 should need body repairs.

 

This Auckland-based auto repair company says that it's New Zealand’s only accredited BMW carbon fibre body shop, and that they are also an accredited BMW Group body shop. They say they are carbon fibre BMW repair specialists, so that's good news.

 

Some postings in this forum explain why it doesn't pay to crash your i3!

 

 




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http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/road-tests/bmw-i3-s-a-dynamic-ride-and-a-realistic-range/?ref=nzhhome

 

The above article is titled: "BMW i3 S: A dynamic ride and a realistic range."

 

Here's an extract from this article:

 

"During my seven-day test I didn’t need to charge it once — despite trying my best to deplete the battery. I tried all the tricks that usually see an EV battery’s dial deplete faster than you can say “please can I have a lithium ionic and a side order of public charger rage?”. Air conditioning on full blast so that your nose has icicles hanging off it? Yup. Turn on sport as much as you can? Oh definitely. Overtaking like you’re driving a BMW i8? You betcha. But still that 200km range stayed genuine.

 

So, a very good review and well worth reading. As mentioned previously, my only major concern with the BMW i3 is that it may be difficult and time-consuming to get repairs done to the carbon fibre body if you live outside Auckland.

 

 


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  Reply # 2006587 2-May-2018 15:07
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frednz:

 

http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/road-tests/bmw-i3-s-a-dynamic-ride-and-a-realistic-range/?ref=nzhhome

 

The above article is titled: "BMW i3 S: A dynamic ride and a realistic range."

 

Here's an extract from this article:

 

"During my seven-day test I didn’t need to charge it once — despite trying my best to deplete the battery. I tried all the tricks that usually see an EV battery’s dial deplete faster than you can say “please can I have a lithium ionic and a side order of public charger rage?”. Air conditioning on full blast so that your nose has icicles hanging off it? Yup. Turn on sport as much as you can? Oh definitely. Overtaking like you’re driving a BMW i8? You betcha. But still that 200km range stayed genuine.

 

So, a very good review and well worth reading. As mentioned previously, my only major concern with the BMW i3 is that it may be difficult and time-consuming to get repairs done to the carbon fibre body if you live outside Auckland.

 

 

 

 

not to sure how accurate her testing on range is.Because it appears this was just round town driving.Its easy to get more range when your using the BMWs regenerative braking.On a longer journey with extra speed using more battery and no so much braking ,200 kms is not so easy to achieve.Complaining about the way she parked the vehicle is no excuse not to recharge either.Not exactly an in depth review is it.


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