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justin5
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  #2207157 29-Mar-2019 16:22
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tripper1000:

 

KiwiME: I've considered leaving a second phone in the car, more for a permanent but hidden mounting position rather than the moment it takes to plug in.   But don't want to pay another $19 a month for a SIM. 

 

2degrees has free data sharing. If you have a post-pay plan you can share your plan data with up to 5 other pre-paid sim cards. I think it is designed for people with Ipad Airs/tablets etc. I have a phone that lives in my car and it costs me nothing per month for the data it uses. 

 

Edit: also ideal for  GPS trackers/security systems etc.

 

 

 

 

That's a good thing to know, tripper1000...FredNZ's idea of having a cheap phone permanently in the car might be a good idea now that you've told me that 2Degrees (who my cellphone account is with) data share. 

 

I could indeed get a prepay SIM and only use it for instant NAV (plus have all my music on it too)...something to consider.

 

 

 

Meanwhile, after charging to 100% this morning with my current city-driving usage at 10.7kWh/100km, my range was showing 609km this morning...that's pretty impressive, eh?

 

 


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justin5
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  #2207159 29-Mar-2019 16:30
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KiwiME:

 

frednz:

 

... but would you lose signal very often from where your mobile sits at the moment? I suppose this is one advantage of a built-in NAV system, perhaps you are less likely to lose signal when compared with using a mobile phone?

 

I'm thinking more of being trapped in a metal box next to a cell phone fighting to contact a distant tower.  A valid concern, I'm not certain, but the RF radiation does worry me slightly and I would prefer it have a more direct shot via the glass.

 

As you say the built-in NAV has the shark fin on the roof (but not present on my base Kona.)

 

 

 

 

You are right, KiwiMe, that a cellphone locked away in a metal box struggling to get a signal might spew out more RF nastiness...I hadn't thought of that.

 

I'm hoping that when the NZ specced Kona EVs come out I can get the firmware/hardware changed out (at my expense) so I can get the in-built NAV working....especially as it shows great NAV info on the Elite's Heads Up Display.

 

The OZ Hyundai website shows NAV working on Kona EVs...so maybe the NZ specced ones are not far away?


wellygary
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  #2207164 29-Mar-2019 16:45
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justin5:

 

I'm hoping that when the NZ specced Kona EVs come out I can get the firmware/hardware changed out (at my expense) so I can get the in-built NAV working....especially as it shows great NAV info on the Elite's Heads Up Display.

 

The OZ Hyundai website shows NAV working on Kona EVs...so maybe the NZ specced ones are not far away?

 

 

How much did you lay out for the Kona?,  $70K+....

 

I would seriously be asking Hyundai NZ to do this for Nix,

 

I mean did they explicitly tell you the NAV was not working before you bought the car?,




justin5
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  #2207182 29-Mar-2019 17:11
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wellygary:

 

justin5:

 

I'm hoping that when the NZ specced Kona EVs come out I can get the firmware/hardware changed out (at my expense) so I can get the in-built NAV working....especially as it shows great NAV info on the Elite's Heads Up Display.

 

The OZ Hyundai website shows NAV working on Kona EVs...so maybe the NZ specced ones are not far away?

 

 

How much did you lay out for the Kona?,  $70K+....

 

I would seriously be asking Hyundai NZ to do this for Nix,

 

I mean did they explicitly tell you the NAV was not working before you bought the car?,

 

 

 

 

When I paid the deposit in June 2018, I was not told the NAV would not work.

 

But, before I bought in November 2018, I was told it would not work (due to the car being Irish-specced as there was no OZ/NZ spec for one yet).

 

I was asked to sign a document on the day of purchase to say I understood that in-built NAV would not work which was OK as I just wanted my Kona by then, despite the missing NAV.

 

It is an amazing EV...I love it...but I still miss that in-built NAV.

 

I understand why Hyundai NZ bought the Irish specced Kona EVs in...New Zealand is an EV country whereas OZ is not, really. So, to get Kona EVs in here sooner than OZ, they had to opt for Irish specced ones that had English screens and metric info.


wellygary
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  #2207184 29-Mar-2019 17:19
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justin5:

 

When I paid the deposit in June 2018, I was not told the NAV would not work.

 

But, before I bought in November 2018, I was told it would not work (due to the car being Irish-specced as there was no OZ/NZ spec for one yet).

 

I was asked to sign a document on the day of purchase to say I understood that in-built NAV would not work which was OK as I just wanted my Kona by then, despite the missing NAV.

 

It is an amazing EV...I love it...but I still miss that in-built NAV.

 

I understand why Hyundai NZ bought the Irish specced Kona EVs in...New Zealand is an EV country whereas OZ is not, really. So, to get Kona EVs in here sooner than OZ, they had to opt for Irish specced ones that had English screens and metric info.

 

 

That's all well and good, but really...  if they stick you with the full cost of making the NAV work It would still grind my gears a bit....

 

I' would "hope" they would offer at least something....


justin5
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  #2207190 29-Mar-2019 17:36
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wellygary:

 

justin5:

 

When I paid the deposit in June 2018, I was not told the NAV would not work.

 

But, before I bought in November 2018, I was told it would not work (due to the car being Irish-specced as there was no OZ/NZ spec for one yet).

 

I was asked to sign a document on the day of purchase to say I understood that in-built NAV would not work which was OK as I just wanted my Kona by then, despite the missing NAV.

 

It is an amazing EV...I love it...but I still miss that in-built NAV.

 

I understand why Hyundai NZ bought the Irish specced Kona EVs in...New Zealand is an EV country whereas OZ is not, really. So, to get Kona EVs in here sooner than OZ, they had to opt for Irish specced ones that had English screens and metric info.

 

 

That's all well and good, but really...  if they stick you with the full cost of making the NAV work It would still grind my gears a bit....

 

I' would "hope" they would offer at least something....

 

 

 

 

We'll see, wellygary ;-)

 

 

 

 


KiwiME
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  #2207962 30-Mar-2019 23:16
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KiwiME:
... the current base Kona is that those models on the lot (and all delivered Elite) are Irish spec and as a result have the desirable heat pump option.  It seems most likely we would receive Aussie spec cars in the future which may be better optioned in other areas, but they won't have the heat pump.  Not sure about the e-Niro, it's not mentioned in the spec sheet.

 

Saw my first "new" model Kona Elite today, the proper NZ spec with working NAV and turn indicator stalk on the right.  It's still got the heat pump. 




justin5
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  #2208234 31-Mar-2019 16:13
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KiwiME:

 

KiwiME:
... the current base Kona is that those models on the lot (and all delivered Elite) are Irish spec and as a result have the desirable heat pump option.  It seems most likely we would receive Aussie spec cars in the future which may be better optioned in other areas, but they won't have the heat pump.  Not sure about the e-Niro, it's not mentioned in the spec sheet.

 

Saw my first "new" model Kona Elite today, the proper NZ spec with working NAV and turn indicator stalk on the right.  It's still got the heat pump. 

 

 

 

 

So, they're finally here!

 

Now, I wonder if I can get the NAV replaced in my Irish Elite....hmmmm....


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  #2208237 31-Mar-2019 16:28
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Is your turn indicator stalk on the left @justin5?


engedib
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  #2208275 31-Mar-2019 16:40
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On Friday night I was pushing my son in the pram, then stumbled across to a Kona parking at the side of the road.

 

An elderly couple was inside (between 80 and 90) and they were very confused, the buy was trying to decrypt a paper map :D

 

They asked some help because they were lost, had no idea where they were, pointed them to the right direction, so I assume their one also has a non functioning GPS :D





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justin5
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  #2208277 31-Mar-2019 16:44
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paulchinnz:

 

Is your turn indicator stalk on the left @justin5?

 

 

 

 

Yes it is....very Euro.

 

That's how you'll be able to tell the Irish-specced Kona EVs from the OZ/NZ ones.


KiwiME
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  #2208616 1-Apr-2019 13:28
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The new Elite has an "Elite" badge on the back and there is a chrome trim along the hatch cover above the handle feature that I don't recall being on the earlier model, could be wrong, I've not seen many of that earlier version.

 

The one I saw in Taupo was white with a black roof, looked very nice.  I wonder what the new base model Kona Electric will look like?  I have seen a photo of the smaller centre display with NAV fitted but the giveaway will be if the shark fin antenna is still present as mine has a "stick" type, so only for radio signals.


justin5
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  #2208805 1-Apr-2019 16:49
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KiwiME:

 

The new Elite has an "Elite" badge on the back and there is a chrome trim along the hatch cover above the handle feature that I don't recall being on the earlier model, could be wrong, I've not seen many of that earlier version.

 

The one I saw in Taupo was white with a black roof, looked very nice.  I wonder what the new base model Kona Electric will look like?  I have seen a photo of the smaller centre display with NAV fitted but the giveaway will be if the shark fin antenna is still present as mine has a "stick" type, so only for radio signals.

 

 

 

 

My Elite has an "Elite" badge on the back...no chrome trim along the hatch cover, though.

 

Just heard back from Hyundai NZ re changing my AVN unit in my Irish-specced Kona so I can have NZ NAV and Maps...read on...

 

 

 

"Thank you for contacting Hyundai New Zealand.

 

I have consulted the service team and nfortunately the AVN Unit in your vehicle will have to be replaced to a different unit used in the “NZ Spec” Kona. The cost of the unit and mapping software will be approximately $4600 + GST.

 

We still cannot confirm that this will work as it is untested."

 

 

 

Yeah...well...I don't feel quite so keen to change the unit out now, eh! :-o

 

 


justin5
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  #2208970 1-Apr-2019 17:50
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justin5:

 

 

 

Just heard back from Hyundai NZ re changing my AVN unit in my Irish-specced Kona so I can have NZ NAV and Maps...read on...

 

 

 

"Thank you for contacting Hyundai New Zealand.

 

I have consulted the service team and nfortunately the AVN Unit in your vehicle will have to be replaced to a different unit used in the “NZ Spec” Kona. The cost of the unit and mapping software will be approximately $4600 + GST.

 

We still cannot confirm that this will work as it is untested."

 

 

 

Yeah...well...I don't feel quite so keen to change the unit out now, eh! :-o

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, just now heard back from Hyundai OZ where Kona EVs are just about to begin being sold (at a price that seems very good, depending on shipping costs to NZ).

 

They said about NAV/Maps...

 

 

 

"If the vehicle is purchased in Australia only Australian maps will be loaded onto the vehicle.

That's not to say if the vehicle was to be exported to NZ at a later date then maps couldn't be loaded for that country, it's entirely possible

Please contact Customer Care in the country to arrange this."


frednz

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  #2209027 1-Apr-2019 19:57
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justin5:

 

KiwiME:

 

The new Elite has an "Elite" badge on the back and there is a chrome trim along the hatch cover above the handle feature that I don't recall being on the earlier model, could be wrong, I've not seen many of that earlier version.

 

The one I saw in Taupo was white with a black roof, looked very nice.  I wonder what the new base model Kona Electric will look like?  I have seen a photo of the smaller centre display with NAV fitted but the giveaway will be if the shark fin antenna is still present as mine has a "stick" type, so only for radio signals.

 

 

 

 

My Elite has an "Elite" badge on the back...no chrome trim along the hatch cover, though.

 

Just heard back from Hyundai NZ re changing my AVN unit in my Irish-specced Kona so I can have NZ NAV and Maps...read on...

 

 

 

"Thank you for contacting Hyundai New Zealand.

 

I have consulted the service team and nfortunately the AVN Unit in your vehicle will have to be replaced to a different unit used in the “NZ Spec” Kona. The cost of the unit and mapping software will be approximately $4600 + GST.

 

We still cannot confirm that this will work as it is untested."

 

 

 

Yeah...well...I don't feel quite so keen to change the unit out now, eh! :-o

 

 

 

 

You know, if I was in charge of Hyundai NZ I would change it over for free, but perhaps I'm not a good manager! I would do this for the positive publicity this would generate for Hyundai and also because I wouldn't want you to pay $5,290 and then find it won't work. I think the early adopters of the Kona EV have done a really good job in providing positive publicity for the EV Kona, so I would see that this doesn't go unrewarded!


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