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# 159932 17-Dec-2014 17:00
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Hi all, I signed up to MyRepublic after reading about the Fibre TV feature they have. Its just a Geo-unblocking feature. I brought a Roku 3 and waited for everything to fall into place. It has not happened. The smart DNS is done on MR's end. I use the supplied ASUS N56U. My Xbox One and PS4 work fine with Netflix, but my Xbox 360 and Roku 3 do not. I have logged a ticket with support, but I'm not expecting much as nobody they asked had heard of a Roku.

If I use a geo unblocking service will it work with MR's smart DNS system? I am now willing to pay for one so I can get everything to work.

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  # 1199350 17-Dec-2014 17:04
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You need to block the DNS from your router

http://support.unblock-us.com/customer/portal/articles/323038-setup-roku-players

Just use your ISP DNS instead of unblock-us and try that




 




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  # 1199352 17-Dec-2014 17:09
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I'm not sure I follow, I have not signed up to any unblocking service yet. Only using the automatic MR DNS setting

 
 
 
 


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  # 1199358 17-Dec-2014 17:20
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To fix the Roku, look at the details in this thread:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=151&topicid=159797

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  # 1199361 17-Dec-2014 17:29
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Scotty1986: I'm not sure I follow, I have not signed up to any unblocking service yet. Only using the automatic MR DNS setting


The roku netflix DNS is hardcoded and can NOT be changed via software you have to block it from your router




 




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  # 1199374 17-Dec-2014 17:41
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This it my modem page, does the IP address I route need to be the same as the IP of the roku? Currently still not showing Netflix app and cannot add it from there website. Could it be conflicting with MR Smart DNS?

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  # 1199420 17-Dec-2014 18:52
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you need to make your image bigger as its really hard to read



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  # 1199460 17-Dec-2014 19:43
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  # 1199463 17-Dec-2014 19:45
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That's a pretty rubbish service for something done at ISP level, which said ISP charges extra for. Orcon's no extra charge unblocking service catches requests to Google DNS. My Roku 3 works with no changes to the router settings.

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  # 1199508 17-Dec-2014 20:31
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Roku is the most popular streaming device in the US. If MR were taking the global mode product seriously, they'd have it working out of the box.

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  # 1199778 18-Dec-2014 10:34
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deadlyllama: That's a pretty rubbish service for something done at ISP level, which said ISP charges extra for. Orcon's no extra charge unblocking service catches requests to Google DNS. My Roku 3 works with no changes to the router settings.


No ISP should EVER intercept or mangle with anything - especially DNS - unless it is something that can be explicitly turned off by the customer. 

If they sell you a service and state they will intercept DNS and click here to accept fine.

If they intercept DNS requests to Google by default - HELL NO.

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  # 1200392 19-Dec-2014 09:56
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wasabi2k:
deadlyllama: That's a pretty rubbish service for something done at ISP level, which said ISP charges extra for. Orcon's no extra charge unblocking service catches requests to Google DNS. My Roku 3 works with no changes to the router settings.


No ISP should EVER intercept or mangle with anything - especially DNS - unless it is something that can be explicitly turned off by the customer. 

If they sell you a service and state they will intercept DNS and click here to accept fine.

If they intercept DNS requests to Google by default - HELL NO.


You can ring up Orcon and get them to turn Global Mode off for your account.  Global Mode is well advertised during the signup process. They only intercept DNS packets for e.g. netflix lookups, as far as I can tell, other DNS to 8.8.8.8 appears to be unmolested.

ISPs selling residential services intercept and mangle all the time.  Many block incoming and sometimes outgoing SMTP, and I remember (10 years ago?) blocking incoming SMB was quite common.  Residential broadband is usually sold at a very small profit margin, and this sort of thing is common to cut down support costs.

I'm very happy with this sort of low impact, proactive firewalling being on by default.  Misconfigured SMTP services at homes and small businesses used to be a tremendous source of spam.  As long as they'll turn it off when you ask, that's fine.

As an aside: given the choice between my outbound DNS being mangled until I ask for it to be turned off, and being on CGNAT unless I pay extra, I'll take the former over the latter any day.

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  # 1200398 19-Dec-2014 10:02
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deadlyllama:
wasabi2k:
deadlyllama: That's a pretty rubbish service for something done at ISP level, which said ISP charges extra for. Orcon's no extra charge unblocking service catches requests to Google DNS. My Roku 3 works with no changes to the router settings.


No ISP should EVER intercept or mangle with anything - especially DNS - unless it is something that can be explicitly turned off by the customer. 

If they sell you a service and state they will intercept DNS and click here to accept fine.

If they intercept DNS requests to Google by default - HELL NO.


You can ring up Orcon and get them to turn Global Mode off for your account.  Global Mode is well advertised during the signup process. They only intercept DNS packets for e.g. netflix lookups, as far as I can tell, other DNS to 8.8.8.8 appears to be unmolested.

ISPs selling residential services intercept and mangle all the time.  Many block incoming and sometimes outgoing SMTP, and I remember (10 years ago?) blocking incoming SMB was quite common.  Residential broadband is usually sold at a very small profit margin, and this sort of thing is common to cut down support costs.

I'm very happy with this sort of low impact, proactive firewalling being on by default.  Misconfigured SMTP services at homes and small businesses used to be a tremendous source of spam.  As long as they'll turn it off when you ask, that's fine.

As an aside: given the choice between my outbound DNS being mangled until I ask for it to be turned off, and being on CGNAT unless I pay extra, I'll take the former over the latter any day.


I'm with you on the SMTP/SMB filtering on residential connections - edge use cases that open potential for abuse.

Mangling/redirecting DNS is far more insidious and difficult to detect - see ISPs in the US that do that and inject ads/cookies/etc into HTTP.

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