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  #2596012 1-Nov-2020 21:41
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Hopefully, this weeks performance in Australia should silence some of Fosters critics. A record win and on Australian soil, a reasonably commanding 3 quarters of Rugby and in the soaking wet no less. The players are prepared to step up for him, which is a good thing, given he wasn't (at least on some fronts) the first choice. I am interested to see how the rest of this tournament goes. I am also interested to see what they plan on defense.

 

I think it should also put some of the out of control praise of Rennie to the side for a bit, he certainly isn't the immediate saviour of Australian Rugby as many have tried to paint him and I believe he should actually put the same team out next week, or close to it, since really, they don't have that much to lose and it will give those players who's confidence may be dented now, a chance to have another crack. Perhaps play some of those guys of the bench.

 

The try grounding rule needs to be properly clear. According to the rule book the first try should have been awarded as far as I can read it, but now they are talking about control and downward pressure.

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2596017 1-Nov-2020 22:26
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Wow Scotland beat Wales in the weekend. What a massive scalp for them to take. 18 Years apparently since the last time. Just goes to show, anyone can beat anyone on their day.

 

I'm still smarting over Ireland beating the AB's :)

 

Congrats to Alun Wynn Jones for becoming the most capped player of all time. Unseating the Great Richie.

 

 


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  #2596019 1-Nov-2020 22:29
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I really hate it when you watch a youtube video and the comments tell you who won before you even watch it.  For some reason my eyes are always drawn to the first comment even though I know it's likely going to tell me the result. My kingdom for a way for comments to be required to be manually expanded each video. I have tried a few plugins and they don't work well.

 

 




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  #2596020 1-Nov-2020 22:33
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Wales have been pretty bad since Gatland left. It was a horrible game.

 

France Ireland was a fun game.


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  #2596023 1-Nov-2020 22:41
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Handle9:

Wales have been pretty bad since Gatland left. It was a horrible game.


France Ireland was a fun game.



I recorded it but didn't end up having time to watch. Highlights suffice or worth making time for the whole thing?

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  #2596025 1-Nov-2020 22:50
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The highlights are probably ok, later in the week the extended highlights should go up.

 

I watched it when I got up this morning. France can really score beautiful tries. Ntamack, Dupont and Fickou are magicians.


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  #2596046 1-Nov-2020 23:19
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Just watched it. Both had some great tries to be fair. I agree though, France at their best are playing some of the most beautiful rugby I've seen. There was a game during the RWC (it may have been the one where they gave up a Red card) where I had my jaw on the ground for the majority of the first half, to only have them come out the second half and play terrible Rugby. If you can find that game, the first half was absoloutely worth watching again in it's entirety.

 

 




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  #2596055 2-Nov-2020 04:38
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They were like that against Argentina as well. Harlem Globetrotters in one half, the Washington Generals in the other.

If they don't turn on Galthié and Edwards they could be one hell of a team. Frances biggest problem has always been France but they have a heap of talent and plenty of cash to develop it.

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  #2596346 2-Nov-2020 14:51
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I wonder what the future in the AB's holds for DM. He seems surplus to requirements. Defensively and kicking, Jordie would have him cold, BB at fullback or even Jordie are as likely to break a defensive line.. I sort of see now why Jordie has been on the Wing, with him being able to move to full back if either of the pivots is rendered unavailable during the game due to injury or subs, though he is far from a natural winger really. I'd still prefer to see Reece there, he has freakish skills, is faster, than say Jordie.

 

The dual pivot role has paid dividends and I see them persisting with it, though I guess they will need to mix it up a bit for alternative defense formations that other international sides (Northern mainly) may employ.

 

I would say, Ioane was lightning quick with ball in hand during the game in Australia, that try in the corner happened almost faster than the camera could catch up. 

 

Paul Lewis made an interesting point that Jordie made a try-saving tackle against Koribete at the end of the game, that his 100+KG allowed him that other less bulky defenders had failed to prevent in Bled 1 and 2.  

 

It's what I have been saying all along about DM. On attack, with time and space, he is a wonder, but defences work that out pretty quickly, and his mercurial nature and defensive negatives (size and decision making) make him in my view, a poor third or forth choice to others at fullback. 


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  #2596517 2-Nov-2020 19:20
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I think you are overstating Mackenzies defensive problems and decision making. They have both improved a lot. He's a very important player, especially next year when Beauden Barrett isn't available.

 

If they want to play twin pivot he is a much better player than Jordie Barrett who is much more of a traditional fullback and very effective in that role. He has a very long kicking game but nowhere near the same variety of short kicks or passing as Mackenzie. It really depends what game plan they want to play.

 

Mo'unga is much more of a defensive liability than Mackenzie.


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  #2596520 2-Nov-2020 19:30
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Handle9:

 

Mo'unga is much more of a defensive liability than Mackenzie.

 

 

RugbyPass.com says in 2020 RM made 82% of his tackles, and DM 67%

 

DM decision making for the Chiefs this season was pretty poor.


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  #2596530 2-Nov-2020 19:43
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They aren't comparable positions. Jordie Barrett made around 75% of his tackles for the Hurricanes and 67% for the All Blacks this year. Full back is way harder position position to defend than flyhalf. Some of Mo'ungas misses are truly awful. His technique isn't great, he arm tackles a lot and gets made to look really bad.

 

McKenzie isn't a top tier defender but he's ok and has improved a lot, as you'd expect as he develops. The same with his decision making for the All Blacks, it's chalk and cheese to what it was. For the chiefs he was almost their whole attack, they really struggled to score points. He's become much more consistent as has Jordie Barrett who also tends to try a bit hard. McKenzie is still only 25 and is a very important player.

 

I'd expect to see Mo'unga similarly improve his defense, most guys aren't the finished product all at once.


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  #2596793 3-Nov-2020 09:17
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Handle9: They were like that against Argentina as well. Harlem Globetrotters in one half, the Washington Generals in the other.

 

It's entirely possible it actually was that game. I can't quite recall, but sounds familiar. 

 

I see Rod Kafer has suggested t playing anyone over 24 in the Wallabies. That's quite an interesting idea. Pretty much puts an end to experience being of benefit. Not sure how that would work, when history shows overwhelmingly that RWC's are won by older teams. 

 

 


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So unless Canterbury can knock over 1 or 2 in the premiership in the next two weeks they will be relegated and join my frustratingly inconsistent Taranaki in the championship next year.

 

The way Canterbury have been playing I can't see them knocking over Tasman or Auckland, but you never know on the day.  Embarrassment could cause an upset.


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  #2596825 3-Nov-2020 10:18
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tukapa1:

 

So unless Canterbury can knock over 1 or 2 in the premiership in the next two weeks they will be relegated and join my frustratingly inconsistent Taranaki in the championship next year.

 

The way Canterbury have been playing I can't see them knocking over Tasman or Auckland, but you never know on the day.  Embarrassment could cause an upset.

 

 

I have never seen Canterbury play the way they have this season. It's been horrible to watch. Defence has been particularly bad. Zero chance their coaching staff are allowed to stay on. Has Canterbury ever been relegated before?

 

Having said that, a number of their losses have been by 1 point.

 

 


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