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  #2774236 8-Sep-2021 09:16
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Good news on the common sense arena, where Jordie Barrett has not been further sanctioned for the red card he got against the Wallabies. 

 

I think they would have been hard pressed to have gone further with it, there were a number of mitigating circumstances. I think they need to come up with a way to deal with situations like that particular one. Koribete almost certainly would have collected him in the air if not for getting a boot in the face, and what more could Jordie have done? Under the current guidelines I don't really think they had a choice as to what was dished out on field, but Koribetes position could potentially have been considered a factor for mitigation. I was so glad they introduced the 20 minute card option. Perhaps they need a purple card where there has been mitigating circumstances or in the case where it's entirely accidental, which gives the player 20 minutes, but a red card is permanent removal of a player for the remainder of the game. 

 

I see there are some new guidelines being explored which prevents the use of pods, and other measures. I only glanced at them and didn't really understand how they would work, but I am all for considering options to try and remove damage to heads. My wife says she sees 2-3 cases a week of serious concussion incidents related to sport and all the other doctors she works with see a similar amount. That from 1 practice alone. 

 

 




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  #2774273 8-Sep-2021 10:27
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networkn:

 

Good news on the common sense arena, where Jordie Barrett has not been further sanctioned for the red card he got against the Wallabies. 

 

I see there are some new guidelines being explored which prevents the use of pods, and other measures. I only glanced at them and didn't really understand how they would work, but I am all for considering options to try and remove damage to heads. My wife says she sees 2-3 cases a week of serious concussion incidents related to sport and all the other doctors she works with see a similar amount. That from 1 practice alone. 

 

 

As soon as the incident happened I thought it would be a yellow card. Intent doesn't come into it no matter what j Marshall says, but reckless does. A red was a bit extreme, but that's the way the game is ref'd at the mo.

 

Its not quite pods they are looking at, but truck and trailer/flying wedge plays.....when the ball carrier has someone attached to them when going into the tackle to give them more oomph.

 

This also means the 'trailer' cannot just fall down and cover the ball. Ive constantly argued this with refs as it means the 'trailer' (or to be more accurate - the first arriving attacking player) is off their feet sealing off the ball from a jackler. Refs have always replied that the second player is part of the tackle so not an issue. Good to see some common sense happening in this part, especially for the defender as yes this is where I see most head knocks happening.


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  #2774546 8-Sep-2021 15:19
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The Findings:

 

 

 

The SANZAAR judicial committee – made up of Robert Stelzner SC, De Wet Barry and Jose Luis Rolandi – have reached the conclusion that Barrett’s indiscretion was unintentional while he fronted a judicial hearing on Tuesday night.

 

As a result, the judicial committee found Barrett not guilty of contravening Law 9.11, which stipulates that players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others.

 

“Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player, a medical report on the opposition player involved, and from two expert witnesses, and having considered the submissions from his legal representative, Stephen Cottrell, the judicial committee found that the player had not transgressed Rule 9.11 and had therefore not committed an act of foul play,” Stelzner, the judicial committee chair, said in a statement.

 

“He legitimately went up in the air to collect a high ball, when in trying to regain his balance on the downward trajectory, his boot inadvertently made contact with his opponent’s head.

 

“The accidental nature of the incident lead the judicial committee to find that there was no intentional nor reckless act of dangerous play, with the result that the red card is expunged from the player’s record.”

 

 

 

 




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  #2775165 9-Sep-2021 10:56
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What is everyone's opinion on this 12 a side game.  I not a big fan of 7s or 10s so it won't cut if for me.

 

The other thing that annoys me is how they compare it to cricket.

 

How can you compare it to T20 when in T20 you don't have a different number of players

 

 


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  #2775199 9-Sep-2021 11:46
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Based on what is happening and what is likely to happen for the foreseeable future it is going to be a 6 team Super Rugby comp next year. Because of recruitment issues that will arise the new team is likely going to get thrashed every week.

 

The only good thing will be the players who normally spend the whole season training and waiting for an injury will get 2 games.


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  #2775345 9-Sep-2021 13:50
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Jas777:

 

What is everyone's opinion on this 12 a side game.  I not a big fan of 7s or 10s so it won't cut if for me.

 

The other thing that annoys me is how they compare it to cricket.

 

How can you compare it to T20 when in T20 you don't have a different number of players

 

 

 

 

I didn't used to enjoy 7's but the womens 7's have really made it interesting.

 

I didn't like 10's and I don't really think 12's is going to interest me, though I have an open mind and will watch at least 1 tournament.


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  #2775346 9-Sep-2021 13:53
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Jas777:

 

Based on what is happening and what is likely to happen for the foreseeable future it is going to be a 6 team Super Rugby comp next year. Because of recruitment issues that will arise the new team is likely going to get thrashed every week.

 

The only good thing will be the players who normally spend the whole season training and waiting for an injury will get 2 games.

 

 

I thought the format had already been confirmed for Super Rugby? 12 Teams.. 5 Australian Teams, 5 Kiwi Teams and the 2 x Pasificika teams?

 

The government said they are intending to push forward with borders open. From a medical perspective, I can tell you the country behind the scenes is preparing for living with Covid with all the ramifications that entails.

 

 


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  #2775437 9-Sep-2021 15:03
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Jas777:

 

What is everyone's opinion on this 12 a side game.  I not a big fan of 7s or 10s so it won't cut if for me.

 

 

It looks like just a money grab by the owners/managers of teams. Can't really see it benefiting NZ Rugby, and for Hanson/Tew to be promoting it, it flies in the face of their years of concern around player workload/burnout.

 

No dates have been advertised yet, just that it will be in a 3 week window. So when would this fit in? NZ Rugby already has a full dance card.

 

I like 7's as it's a lot different to 15's. 10's is relatively invisible to the general public and I don't remember the last time it was on TV. At this stage I dont really see 12's being anything much different to whats already out there.


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  #2776097 10-Sep-2021 15:18
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I am pretty happy to see Moody back in the team. I hope he gets back to his best quickly. 

 

 


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  #2776101 10-Sep-2021 15:27
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Am I having a boy look? I can't find the RSA/AU game on Sky this weekend?

 

 


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  #2776115 10-Sep-2021 15:59
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Showing for me straight after the ABs game when looking at the Sky Guide. 

 

 

 


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  #2776116 10-Sep-2021 16:01
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Showing for me straight after the ABs game when looking at the Sky Guide. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OK, that explains it, the information I had stated Saturday night.

 

 


  #2777171 13-Sep-2021 00:19
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Great finish to the Wallabies v South Africa game. Now time to go to bed and get ready for work.

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Loved that Quade kicked the winner!! 


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  #2777502 13-Sep-2021 13:24
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Those were two really pretty decent games for different reasons.

 

I don't often cheer for Australia, but when I saw the robotic kick for territory/high ball, set-piece, rinse and repeat from the 'boks I couldn't help but hope Australia got the W. It was actually a pretty decent game overall. Some pundit are panning SA, but I think they played OK, their discipline let them down a bit and Australia played the best I've seen them play in ages. Congrats to Quade Cooper for what was a really decent display at test level after a 4-year break, including some excellent placekicking. Impressive. I really hope the NZ public stop booing him. Reece Hodge is prone to real brain farts. I am not sure I rate him at test level.

 

I enjoyed NZ keeping Argentina scoreless for the second consecutive test.  It was really a decent defensive effort, though Argentina looked a little bereft of ideas in attack for some parts of the game. How good was it to see Joe Moody on the field?!

 

Overall, I think we can say we are building nicely where we have the players. Lineout (throwing), and scrum still are a concern. Our forwards are doing a good job of cleaning out and getting to rucks.

 

TJP's passing is laborious. He is also reasonably slow to the rucks. No doubt he is a decent rugby player, but Brad Webers much faster pass was really required to pick up the pace of the game. I can't think of a halfback with a worse pass in world rugby. It seems strange he can't do something about it.

 

 

 

 


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