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  #3120605 26-Aug-2023 15:52
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networkn: I think we will be without Lomax, Barrett, Rettalick and Frizzel.


 



Why would we be without Barrett?



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  #3120613 26-Aug-2023 16:07
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tukapa1: Why would we be without Barrett?

 

Did you watch the game?


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  #3120617 26-Aug-2023 16:18
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tukapa1: 

Why would we be without Barrett?

 

 

 

IIRC Red on the back of 2 Yellows, is an automatic 1-game ban?

 

 

 

 




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  #3120618 26-Aug-2023 16:18
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Wombat1:

 

tukapa1: Why would we be without Barrett?

 

Did you watch the game?

 

 

If you’re talking about Scott Barrett, then the offence remained yellow on review, so no further sanction (at least according to the commentary). So I assume tukapa1 did indeed watch (and listen to) the game.

 

Haven’t seen any further reports on how serious Lomax’s leg injury is. I assume Joe Moody has his bags packed just in case.





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  #3120619 26-Aug-2023 16:21
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Dingbatt:

 

Haven’t seen any further reports on how serious Lomax’s leg injury is. I assume Joe Moody has his bags packed just in case.

 

 

Given how long my finger took to heal when it had a disagreement with a cheese grater recently, and that was with no contact, he may have been called already!

 

 

 

 


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  #3120621 26-Aug-2023 16:24
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Dingbatt:

 

If you’re talking about Scott Barrett, then the offence remained yellow on review, so no further sanction (at least according to the commentary). So I assume tukapa1 did indeed watch (and listen to) the game.

 

 

That's what I understand.  No upgrade to red so no referral to judiciary.


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  #3120623 26-Aug-2023 16:37
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tukapa1:

 

Dingbatt:

 

If you’re talking about Scott Barrett, then the offence remained yellow on review, so no further sanction (at least according to the commentary). So I assume tukapa1 did indeed watch (and listen to) the game.

 

 

That's what I understand.  No upgrade to red so no referral to judiciary.

 

 

Malcolm Marx was wiping blood from his brow just after the hit. Barrett came with speed and intention hitting a prone player with his shoulder on the head. Barrett will be cited by the foil play commissioner who will then decide if a suspension is required. It can go either way. 


 
 
 

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  #3120625 26-Aug-2023 16:41
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tukapa1:

 

That's what I understand.  No upgrade to red so no referral to judiciary.

 

 

I can't find the reference, but I believe all red cards are referred automatically to the judiciary. I'm pretty sure it was BB in Super Rugby who got 2 yellows upgraded to a red neither was foul play and he got a 1 week ban.

 

My memory may be failing me, however, so I wouldn't bet my life on it.


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  #3120626 26-Aug-2023 16:42
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Not fussed.

If the ABs win the cup no one's gonna care about today's result.

Better lose now than later!




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  #3120627 26-Aug-2023 16:44
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heavenlywild: Not fussed.

If the ABs win the cup no one's gonna care about today's result.

Better lose now than later!

 

France game is going to be interesting. 


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  #3120628 26-Aug-2023 16:55
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Wombat1:

 

Malcolm Marx was wiping blood from his brow just after the hit. Barrett came with speed and intention hitting a prone player with his shoulder on the head. Barrett will be cited by the foil play commissioner who will then decide if a suspension is required. It can go either way. 

 

 

In both the yellow cards for direct contact to the head, neither “victim” (Marx and Cane) was referred for an HIA. I would have thought any impact warranting a yellow card would mean the person receiving the contact should be assessed? After all, the rule is there for player safety and not just so the IRB has a defence against litigation…..





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  #3120630 26-Aug-2023 17:02
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networkn:

 

I can't find the reference, but I believe all red cards are referred automatically to the judiciary. I'm pretty sure it was BB in Super Rugby who got 2 yellows upgraded to a red neither was foul play and he got a 1 week ban.

 

My memory may be failing me, however, so I wouldn't bet my life on it.

 

 

 

 

Under NZ rules (which Super Rugby is played under) two yellows = red is referred to the foul play review committee, which is a step below the judiciary.  They can make a recommendation and if the player accepts then that is the end of it with no referral to the judiciary.

 

The foul play review committee deemed the red card was a satisfactory outcome for Beaudy and he received no suspension.  It never went to the judiciary.

 

All I can find in the World Rugby rules is that two yellows = red may be referred to the judiciary, not will be referred.

 

 


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  #3120670 26-Aug-2023 20:15
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Just watching Otago v Southland, and one of the commentators is the guy who usually does the rugby league games.

 

It sounds weird and is very disconcerting.





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  #3120674 26-Aug-2023 20:51
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tukapa1:

networkn:


I can't find the reference, but I believe all red cards are referred automatically to the judiciary. I'm pretty sure it was BB in Super Rugby who got 2 yellows upgraded to a red neither was foul play and he got a 1 week ban.


My memory may be failing me, however, so I wouldn't bet my life on it.



 


Under NZ rules (which Super Rugby is played under) two yellows = red is referred to the foul play review committee, which is a step below the judiciary.  They can make a recommendation and if the player accepts then that is the end of it with no referral to the judiciary.


The foul play review committee deemed the red card was a satisfactory outcome for Beaudy and he received no suspension.  It never went to the judiciary.


All I can find in the World Rugby rules is that two yellows = red may be referred to the judiciary, not will be referred.


 



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I posted this in another thread, but short answer is yes, he'll go before the judiciary, and probably won't get suspended, unless there's more evidence of head contact

> World Rugby Regulation 17 covers all of this.
> He will be cited, two yellows is treated the same as a red in terms of automatically appearing before the judiciary.
> He definitely won't receive a suspension for the first yellow, and I'd say it's unlikely he will receive one for the second, unless there is a better angle showing direct head contact.
> The judiciary usually find that "the send-off was sufficient and no further sanction was necessary." In similar cases of two yellow cards

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  #3120700 27-Aug-2023 07:31
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Oh my goodness!

 

If you thought the ABs game was a shock, Fiji just beat England 30-22, at Twickenham no less!





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