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#3305118 4-Nov-2024 10:12

Earbanean:

Yeah, I'm a fan of Gardner too, but I didn't think he had his best game on Saturday. There were a few forward passes, etc missed, but I guess that happens. However, I reckon refs are starting to get a bit OTT with the talking to the players. Gardner (and others) are now actually praising them for just following the rules. I number of times he even said "good listen", for players apparently doing something they were told. I talk a bit like that when reffing U9, U10 juniors etc - but for test footy?

Yeah, I didn't think Gardener had a great game either to be fair. Forward passes have been something not picked up all of Super Rugby and Internationals this year, the AB's get away with it as much as anyone though. It's like it's been viewed as 'must be very forward'. Happens a lot in the forwards to forwards passes in tight.

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#3305123 4-Nov-2024 10:22

Marler retires from international rugby. I won't miss him to be honest. Unfortunately, he will likely go on to be just as big of a big mouth as he always was.

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#3305273 4-Nov-2024 15:44

Earbanean: Gardner (and others) are now actually praising them for just following the rules. I number of times he even said "good listen", for players apparently doing something they were told. I talk a bit like that when reffing U9, U10 juniors etc - but for test footy?

The fact that referees need to constantly “coach” players on the field, even at the highest level, shows that the rules of rugby are too complicated and too open to interpretation. It would otherwise be a whistle-fest. Perhaps it should be. Then the rules might get changed.

In the 46th minute, one of the English forwards reached around the ruck and put his hands on the ball, preventing Ratima from clearing it. The ref yelled “No!” and the ball was released. But play was slowed by the action and it should have been penalised. Even the commentator remarked that it clearly should have resulted in a penalty advantage.

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#3305282 4-Nov-2024 16:53

Losing BB for the next test against Ireland is a bit of a body blow.I thought he played a great game and showed a lot of options at 10 DMac doesn't seem to have and then created one of the tries and almost scored another if it hadn't been for the deliberate knock on.

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#3305478 5-Nov-2024 11:08

Wildly unimpressed to have a chunk of my Sky Broadcast of the match on Sunday AM, blocked by a massive range rover ad.

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#3305481 5-Nov-2024 11:17

networkn:

Wildly unimpressed to have a chunk of my Sky Broadcast of the match on Sunday AM, blocked by a massive range rover ad.

I didn't watch it live but on the highlights (not from Sky) I found the television coverage was far better than what Sky normally provides using their own OB facilities (the channel logo showed TNT) and the commentary better than Sky's team.

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#3305544 5-Nov-2024 13:08

networkn:

Wildly unimpressed to have a chunk of my Sky Broadcast of the match on Sunday AM, blocked by a massive range rover ad.

I saw a small defender ad in the top right corner from time to time, was it something else?

Also Ireland have opened as large favs vs the AB's no surprises there though. Ireland $1.47 - New Zealand $2.60

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#3305604 5-Nov-2024 15:26

I believe we should play a B team against Ireland given the 6 day turn around and send the rest ahead to France to prepare for that game

Let's face it, only dropping the one game to Ireland, the world number 1, on this end of year tour would be a massive success given where the ABs are.

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#3306588 7-Nov-2024 13:00

Ireland side to play All Blacks:

1. Andrew Porter, 2. Rónan Kelleher, 3. Finlay Bealham, 4. Joe McCarthy, 5. James Ryan, 6. Tadhg Beirne, 7. Josh van der Flier, 8. Caelan Doris (captain), 9. Jamison Gibson-Park, 10. Jack Crowley, 11. James Lowe, 12. Bundee Aki, 13. Garry Ringrose, 14. Mack Hansen, 15. Hugo Keenan.

Replacements: 16. Rob Herring, 17. Cian Healy, 18. Tom O’Toole, 19. Iain Henderson, 20. Peter O’Mahony, 21. Conor Murray, 22. Ciaran Frawley, 23. Jamie Osborne

All Blacks team to play Ireland:

1.    Tamaiti Williams, 2.   Asafo Aumua, 3.    Tyrel Lomax, 4.    Scott Barrett (Captain), 5.    Tupou Vaa’i, 6.    Wallace Sititi, 7.    Sam Cane, 8.    Ardie Savea (Vice-Captain) 9.    Cortez Ratima, 10.  Damian McKenzie, 11.  Caleb Clarke, 12.  Jordie Barrett (Vice-Captain), 13.  Rieko Ioane, 14.  Mark Tele’a, 15.  Will Jordan.

Replacements: 16.  George Bell, 17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi, 18. Pasilio Tosi, 19. Patrick Tuipulotu, 20. Samipeni Finau, 21. Cam Roigard, 22. Anton Lienert-Brown, 23. Stephen Perofeta.

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#3306800 8-Nov-2024 09:14

Dingbatt:

The fact that referees need to constantly “coach” players on the field, even at the highest level, shows that the rules of rugby are too complicated and too open to interpretation.

I would say that referees “coach-himself-interpretation-rules”, this is why the rules are "different" from game to game. 😁😁😁

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#3306851 8-Nov-2024 09:48

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360477279/voice-new-zealand-rugby-grant-nisbett-bring-350th-all-blacks-test

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#3306852 8-Nov-2024 09:50

This is an ...... interesting decision by Joe Schmidt.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360480055/wallabies-roll-dice-and-hand-nrl-star-joseph-aukuso-suaalii-start-debut

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#3307275 9-Nov-2024 14:51

So, still an error ridden match, but it was overall, a good performance. It showed a bit of the grit and determination we have come to expect, and pretty much, the entire match we looked in control of winning.

Our discipline was pretty reasonable. Ireland should have been carded when after a warning, they had a third high tackle offense. Could have got one when we were hot on attack just outside their 22 toward the end of the game.

I thought Berry had an extremely average performance.

It was satisfying to win by a decent margin after so much keeps being made of Ireland. It was also nice to backup a good RWC performance against them esp at home.

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#3307406 10-Nov-2024 06:12

Max Jorgensen. Got wheels.

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#3307415 10-Nov-2024 07:54

tukapa1: I believe we should play a B team against Ireland given the 6 day turn around and send the rest ahead to France to prepare for that game

Let's face it, only dropping the one game to Ireland, the world number 1, on this end of year tour would be a massive success given where the ABs are.

That aged well :)

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