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  # 2285267 29-Jul-2019 15:54
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Me. I am not into sports in general. I prefer to spend most of my time on movies and books. There is only limited time for unlimited hobbies. 


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  # 2285281 29-Jul-2019 16:15
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I played rugby up until secondary school when I decided to stop playing and concentrate study, athletics, orchestra, band and drama. I enjoyed playing and still enjoy watching it however with it being split between Sky and Spark I now only watch very occasionally. I don't go to live games now it is just too difficult. If you rugby, cool.  If you don't like rugby, cool. Each to their own and no one is wrong.





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  # 2285821 30-Jul-2019 16:04
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Professional sports such as rugby are just a mini-economy. Games are commodity goods, score boards are like profit and loss statements, the rankings are the stock price. The team/stock that produces the highest numbers are favoured by the punters. People make an emotional investment, and either make an emotional profit or loss. Some go to the TAB and make a hard cash investment and make a cash profit or loss, not unlike the stock exchange.

 

The fact at the end of the day is that this mini economy only materially matters to those that profit from it. The performance of a sports team has zero impact on my existence. The performance of the stock exchange materially affects more of us than sports, so by rights we should spend more time following financial news that than the so called sports news.

 

 

 

 


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  # 2285825 30-Jul-2019 16:11
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We're going to need a punchy nickname for Adrian Orr. Shag and razor are already taken.


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  # 2285863 30-Jul-2019 17:10
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afe66: 
Where are the science and arts heroes - 

 

What, like Peter Jackson, or Neil Finn, or Lorde, or Taika Waititi, or Sir Richard Taylor (Weta Workshop)?

 

Ernest Rutherford is on a New Zealand banknote.  No All Black is.


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  # 2286061 30-Jul-2019 21:15
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Ah - so what do we make of the Fortnite World Cup? Professional pastime, game - dare I say sport? Blurrs the lines a little in terms of some of the discussion in this thread.


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  # 2286065 30-Jul-2019 21:25
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eracode:

 

Ah - so what do we make of the Fortnite World Cup? Professional pastime, game - dare I say sport? Blurrs the lines a little in terms of some of the discussion in this thread.

 

 

Well, from my point of view, and as a gamer, I see far more benefits to society in physical sports that E-Sports.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2286145 31-Jul-2019 06:44
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I awoke early the other morning to find the All Blacks playing Argentina in the Rugby World Champs.

 

 

I watched it for a while, but then turned it off... didn't really interest me and I actually find it boring. I'm deffo going off rugby and with the world cup round the corner, I'll watch the games, but they will be on in the background and won't make any special attempt to watch\ find the result.

 

 





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  # 2286171 31-Jul-2019 07:59
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Earbanean:

 

afe66: 
Where are the science and arts heroes - 

 

What, like Peter Jackson, or Neil Finn, or Lorde, or Taika Waititi, or Sir Richard Taylor (Weta Workshop)?

 

Ernest Rutherford is on a New Zealand banknote.  No All Black is.

 

 

Nanogirl, Souxsie Wiles, Eleanor Catton etc are all highly visible also. There's plenty of arts and science heroes out there with well-deserved profiles. You'd think New Zealanders are forced to watch Super Rugby at gunpoint with the victim complexes some people have.


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  # 2286232 31-Jul-2019 09:21
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GV27:

 

Nanogirl, Souxsie Wiles, Eleanor Catton etc are all highly visible also. There's plenty of arts and science heroes out there with well-deserved profiles. You'd think New Zealanders are forced to watch Super Rugby at gunpoint with the victim complexes some people have.

 

 

Yep, it seems from this thread that there's a bit of a pre-conception in the geekesphere that rugby players are the heroes, while scientists, artists etc are totally ignored.  That may be coloured by experiences back in the past, maybe at school, but modern day reality is a bit different.  

 

For example, there have been 9 New Zealanders of the Year since it was created in 2010.  Of those 9, only one (Richie McCaw) is a rugby player.  However there are two scientists - Sir Paul Callaghan (physicist) and Sir Ray Avery (pharmaceutical scientist, inventor).  The rest of the list includes the likes of Sir Richard Taylor and Taika Waititi from the Arts and Dr Lance O'Sullicvan from Medicine, as well as business people etc.

 

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2018 Kristine Bartlett
2017 Taika Waititi
2016 Richie McCaw
2015 Sir Stephen Tindall
2014 Dr Lance O'Sullivan
2013 Dame Anne Salmond
2012 Sir Richard Taylor
2011 Sir Paul Callaghan
2010 Sir Ray Avery


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  # 2286236 31-Jul-2019 09:29
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I should have mentioned that Dame Anne Salmond is an academic and writer


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  # 2286246 31-Jul-2019 09:58
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Labelling players of any kind of pass-time "hero's" for being skilled at that pass-time dramatically depreciates the word Hero.

 

The day a sports person disregards their own safety to save another's life, they are indeed a "hero".

 

Until then, no matter how many goals they score or matches they win, they are most definitely not any kind of hero. 

 

 


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  # 2286257 31-Jul-2019 10:06
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I don't recall many people referring to Rugby Players (Or actually any sports I follow) as hero's. I have heard them referred to as excellent role models and I believe some of them are.


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  # 2286271 31-Jul-2019 10:41
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Earbanean:

GV27:

 

Nanogirl, Souxsie Wiles, Eleanor Catton etc are all highly visible also. There's plenty of arts and science heroes out there with well-deserved profiles. You'd think New Zealanders are forced to watch Super Rugby at gunpoint with the victim complexes some people have.

 

 

Yep, it seems from this thread that there's a bit of a pre-conception in the geekesphere that rugby players are the heroes, while scientists, artists etc are totally ignored.  That may be coloured by experiences back in the past, maybe at school, but modern day reality is a bit different.  

 

For example, there have been 9 New Zealanders of the Year since it was created in 2010.  Of those 9, only one (Richie McCaw) is a rugby player.  However there are two scientists - Sir Paul Callaghan (physicist) and Sir Ray Avery (pharmaceutical scientist, inventor).  The rest of the list includes the likes of Sir Richard Taylor and Taika Waititi from the Arts and Dr Lance O'Sullicvan from Medicine, as well as business people etc.

 

Full List:

 

2018 Kristine Bartlett
2017 Taika Waititi
2016 Richie McCaw
2015 Sir Stephen Tindall
2014 Dr Lance O'Sullivan
2013 Dame Anne Salmond
2012 Sir Richard Taylor
2011 Sir Paul Callaghan
2010 Sir Ray Avery

 

 

It's a sad fact, however, that out of this list, I wouldn't be surprised that only the names Richie McCaw and Taika Waititi would be recognized by the average Joe or Jill in the street.

 

I'm reasonably well-educated, and like to consider myself reasonably well-informed, but I frankly couldn't have told you who half of the people on that list were.

 

I'm happy the other award-winners were recognized, but the social recognition that sportspeople have cannot be understated.

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  # 2286323 31-Jul-2019 11:02
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Gurezaemon: It's a sad fact, however, that out of this list, I wouldn't be surprised that only the names Richie McCaw and Taika Waititi would be recognized by the average Joe or Jill in the street. I'm reasonably well-educated, and like to consider myself reasonably well-informed, but I frankly couldn't have told you who half of the people on that list were. I'm happy the other award-winners were recognized, but the social recognition that sportspeople have cannot be understated.

 

Yeah, but name recognition isn't the same thing.  Kim Kardashian would probably trump all these on recognition, but that doesn't make her a hero to anyone.  I seriously hope it doesn't...


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