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Technofreak
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  #3321545 17-Dec-2024 10:36
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Handsomedan:

 

I think it will largely depend on what you really wany from a bike. 
You could get a short-travel full suspension bike with good anti-squat properties and make the most of being cushioned throughout the vast majority of your ride, or you could get any number of very good trail hardtails, but if you want something like a step-thru frame, or something taht comes with a kickstand, as opposed to a mountain bike that's almost fit-for-purpose, then you'll have a slightly broader search field. 

Personally, I have gone eBike and that's all I'd consider now for something like a Rail Trail, but if that's not your bag you need to write up a bit of a list of what you really want from a bike - not just "front suspension and disc brakes", which I think whould probably be a given for any kind of off-road riding, even if it's just Rail Trail type stuff. 
I'm thinking of things beyond just componentry and weight, but things like ride position, wheel size, tyre & wheel type, rack compatibility etc. 
It all gets quite murky when you go down the rabbit hole. 

Also - how much do you want to spend? That will have a massive impact on your decision making. 

I agree that on the surface a Giant Roam or Marin DSX would fit the general bill, but maybe a dedicated Gravel Bike with flat bars may be better? Lots to consider. 

I love New Bike Day. 

 

 

I don't have much of an issue with the ride I get now on my old Sirrus with no suspension. So I don't see full suspension being a high priority. Not looking for a step through or kick stand.  

 

We have talked about the E-Bike option, but while that might be on the cards in the future it's not part of the current plan.

 

Ride position can generally be altered with handle bar positioning/change of bar, the rest is usually taken care of by getting the sizing correct. Sure there will be variations by make and model but I think it's much like the seating position in a car. You hop in someone elses car and it's not long before you're comfortable with the different position (provided it's not way out of whack compared to what you're used to).

 

Wheel size is a consideration. All of my bikes have been 27.5". I may find 29" to be what I really want/need though from what I've read it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.

 

Our bike rack should work with what ever I get.

 

Yep, the price I want to pay determines the selection. As mentioned above ideally in the $1500 plus or minus range. I don't want to tie up too much cash in this.





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  #3321547 17-Dec-2024 10:43
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geoffwnz:

 

Popped out for a "short" ride last weekend.  6 hours 50 mins later, crossed the Taupo Huka Hundy finish line, spent but happy.

 

Based on the previous two years events (85km and 60km) I estimated around 8 hours for the approx 100km course.  So to smash that by a very solid 70 mins was very satisfying. 

 

 

I'm in awe of the super athletes who do these events, what an achievement.

 

Surely this summer is the season to get in a couple of longer rides.....





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  #3321549 17-Dec-2024 10:52
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My current hardtail uses 29" wheels. It looks like a monster truck but once you're on it they roll very well. The larger diameter just smooths out many imperfections in the road/gravel surface. You'd be hard pressed fiding 26" wheels on anything these days, either 27.5" or 29".




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  #3321554 17-Dec-2024 11:02
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elpenguino:

 

geoffwnz:

 

Popped out for a "short" ride last weekend.  6 hours 50 mins later, crossed the Taupo Huka Hundy finish line, spent but happy.

 

Based on the previous two years events (85km and 60km) I estimated around 8 hours for the approx 100km course.  So to smash that by a very solid 70 mins was very satisfying. 

 

 

I'm in awe of the super athletes who do these events, what an achievement.

 

Surely this summer is the season to get in a couple of longer rides.....

 

 

And I'm "only" mid pack at best.  :-) As one of my endurance mantras goes, I'm not fast but I can go for a very long time.

 

A longer ride is just a shorter ride where you forget to stop.  ;-)

 

You can either gradually increase the ride time by going, say, an additional 15 mins each time.  Or go nuts, pack some food and a decent amount of liquid and just hit a long trail at a comfortable pace.

 

I would recommend the first option for most people as the second one can be more risky if you go too far past your limits and get yourself in trouble.  Either way, let someone know your plans etc.





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  #3321556 17-Dec-2024 11:12
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Senecio:

 

My current hardtail uses 29" wheels. It looks like a monster truck but once you're on it they roll very well. The larger diameter just smooths out many imperfections in the road/gravel surface. You'd be hard pressed fiding 26" wheels on anything these days, either 27.5" or 29".

 

 

You're correct about the 26". Not sure what I was thinking of when I wrote that. 27.5 (700) is what I currently have.





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  #3321557 17-Dec-2024 11:15
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Technofreak:

 

Senecio:

 

My current hardtail uses 29" wheels. It looks like a monster truck but once you're on it they roll very well. The larger diameter just smooths out many imperfections in the road/gravel surface. You'd be hard pressed fiding 26" wheels on anything these days, either 27.5" or 29".

 

 

You're correct about the 26". Not sure what I was thinking of when I wrote that. 27.5 (700) is what I currently have.

 

 

Probably thinking of a 1990's bike.  ;-)

 

I have one still, though it's now sitting on the Zwift trainer.  But there's a noticeable difference in ride between 26 and 29.  The 26 almost feels jittery by comparison now.





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  #3321562 17-Dec-2024 11:23
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Technofreak:

 

Senecio:

 

My current hardtail uses 29" wheels. It looks like a monster truck but once you're on it they roll very well. The larger diameter just smooths out many imperfections in the road/gravel surface. You'd be hard pressed fiding 26" wheels on anything these days, either 27.5" or 29".

 

 

You're correct about the 26". Not sure what I was thinking of when I wrote that. 27.5 (700) is what I currently have.

 

 

For relaxed trail riding , there may not be any effective difference in wheel size. A bigger wheel is less affected than a small wheel by a hole of the same size so the bigger wheels are better for comfort , passive suspension I suppose you could call it.

 

Larger wheels make the bike longer and harder to turn quickly (but also more stable) but for relaxed trail riding the larger wheels may not make much difference to you.

 

How do you transport your bike? If you put it in your vehicle (as I do) , the few extra inches may make life awkward.





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  #3321567 17-Dec-2024 11:44
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elpenguino:

 

How do you transport your bike? If you put it in your vehicle (as I do) , the few extra inches may make life awkward.

 

 

Oh yeah, forgot that detail.

 

26" mtb fits in the ute tray lengthwise with front wheel off, forks on the mount.

 

29" mtb in same configuration fits but has to sit at an angle across 2/3 of the width to fit within the length of the tray/canopy.





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  #3321581 17-Dec-2024 12:23
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As the year end approaches, my little claim to fame (in my own mind) is that I only need to log two more rides to match the number of rides from last year (68).

 

There was a real lull in my winter activity and I noted a big drop off in strength and fitness so I've been upping my ride frequency which was easier as the weather improved. 

 

I should try for another 3 or more rides so I can set a new record.

 

 





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  #3321587 17-Dec-2024 13:06
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elpenguino:

 

As the year end approaches, my little claim to fame (in my own mind) is that I only need to log two more rides to match the number of rides from last year (68).

 

There was a real lull in my winter activity and I noted a big drop off in strength and fitness so I've been upping my ride frequency which was easier as the weather improved. 

 

I should try for another 3 or more rides so I can set a new record.

 

 

One ride a week if you include doing one on 30/31 Dec.  You can do it.  :-)

 

I'm up 52% on last years number of rides apparently.  A lot of that is having got the indoor trainer and Zwift setup so that the weather is no longer an excuse through winter especially.

 

Running is 5% fewer activities.  Best work on that.





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  #3321646 17-Dec-2024 14:26
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All my Strava stats are down :-( (I started playing a lot more golf)

 

115 active days on the bike (down 23% on 23)

 

1,829km on the bike (down 31% on 23)

 

10,352m of elevation climbed (down 60% on 23)





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  #3321649 17-Dec-2024 14:47
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Technofreak:

 

 

 

Road cycling can have its challenges but I've found there are ways of reducing the risk. 

 

  • Choose roads with good width.
  • Avoid times of the day with low sun angles
  • Avoid busy times.
  • Choose a route that avoids busy/difficult intersections. 
  • Plan your route to avoid right turns as much as possible.
  • Quiet suburban streets are good - do loops of a quiet area.
  • Stay away from kerbs
  • Be assertive with your road position, don't get yourself in a position where vehicles are likely to crowd you. Be prepared to take up a position in the middle of the lane to protect your space, but only do this when necessary for short distances and pedal as fast as you can. Also pick your time to make the move, timing is everything. 
  • Don't ride listening to music or podcasts. You need know and hear what's going on around you.

As you get more experience you will feel happier venturing further afield. 

 

It also helps if you can find someone else to ride with, preferably someone with similar ability speed wise.

 

 

 

 

Yes all those are good tips

 

One thing I find makes a major difference in the way cars treat you on the road, is using daylight running lights in both front a rear. These also flash so are more noticeable and the front one is bright so it can be easily seen during the day..Without them I would  get cars overtaking you very closely, even though they are supposed to give at least 1.5m of space, or they ignore you are intersections. The lights make sure they see you and I also think people see it as an e bike because it has power so they treat it more like it is a motor vehicle. I am amazed at how much better I am treated on the road as a result of them.  


  #3321654 17-Dec-2024 15:36
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JPNZ:

 

All my Strava stats are down :-( (I started playing a lot more golf)

 

115 active days on the bike (down 23% on 23)

 

1,829km on the bike (down 31% on 23)

 

10,352m of elevation climbed (down 60% on 23)

 

 

But did your handicap improve?


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  #3321655 17-Dec-2024 15:47
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Senecio:

 

But did your handicap improve?

 

 

Down from 22 to 16.8 :-) 





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  #3321683 17-Dec-2024 18:11
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Technofreak:

 

I've just started looking for another bike to use on rail trail types of rides since we are planning on doing a fair bit more of this sort of riding

 

I have a Specialized Sirrus which I bought when I first got into cycling. It was a cheaper bike to get started on and I used it almost exclusively  on the road. Later on I bought a dedicated road bike a Giant OCR which I really enjoy riding. After riding the Giant I realised the Sirrus is really one size too big for me. Hence the search for another bike.

 

It's not a have to have but front suspension would be nice as well as disc brakes. Also for the type of riding envisioned I think straight handle bars rather than drops would be better. Also weight is a consideration. 

 

 


Actually now that I think about it, my partner has a Sirrus X? However it has disc brakes on it. I think it would be perfect for something like the rail trail, hers is like a flat bar gravel/commuter.

 

The dilemma with some bikes is that the cheaper suspension forks often don't work that well and barely take the edge off. I've not done the rail trail, but I know a few that have including my brother in law who does big road kms. He did it on a gravel bike at the last minute instead of his mountain bike and loved it. 


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