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#1075137 26-Jun-2014 17:28

gzt:
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gzt:
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gzt: Even if that is/was the case, does this require anything more than civil litigation to sort it out and come to terms? Spying and helicopters seem a very bad way to resolve the issue.

Why do you assume anyone wants to resolve anything? I'd read it more that Dotcom's business models suit no one but himself and so he becomes a target for everyone.

I do not assume they wish to resolve anything. I'm just suggesting civil litigation is the appropriate route for the MPAA and RIAA to take.

Not if you've broken criminal law which the FBI believe he has.

I would suggest that belief started with the MPAA and RIAA, and after a lot of lobbying was finally taken up by the FBI. Similar conspiracy charges could have been (and still could be) brought against any number of competitors including Youtube with this kind of approach.

Personally I expect the reason the industry took this extreme approach in the case of Megaupload was that MU was emerging as a viable competitor in the distribution industry. It appeared to me from the endorsements MU was getting and the people beginning to associate with it, that one or more major artists were seriously beginning to consider releasing via MU.

That could be very true,

Before the raid, Megaupload was going to launch a service called megabox, that was going to give the artists 90% of the revenue, instead of whatever the labels give them. It was going to let you download and listen to the music for free, as long as you installed a browser plugin called megakey which is like an adblocker except it replaces some ads with ads from megabox. They have continued with this idea after the raid, It is now going to be called baboom.com

You can preview it now with dotcoms album but apparently it will be launching for real soon. And then all the artists in their Mega song which Universal Music Group didnt like. NZ artist Gin Wigmore was going to be in it but her record label made her pull out

And in this song, Robbie williams is wearing a mega upload jacket

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#1075151 26-Jun-2014 17:52

Yabanize: Before the raid, Megaupload was going to launch a service called megabox, that was going to give the artists 90% of the revenue, instead of whatever the labels give them. It was going to let you download and listen to the music for free, as long as you installed a browser plugin called megakey which is like an adblocker except it replaces some ads with ads from megabox. They have continued with this idea after the raid, It is now going to be called baboom.com

You can preview it now with dotcoms album but apparently it will be launching for real soon. And then all the artists in their Mega song which Universal Music Group didnt like. NZ artist Gin Wigmore was going to be in it but her record label made her pull out

Which is a shame and will probably drive a lot of small publishers out of business - if this service replaces the ads on Geekzone and they make money instead of my company, how are we supposed to keep this running?

It's evil.

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#1075154 26-Jun-2014 17:58

freitasm:
Yabanize: Before the raid, Megaupload was going to launch a service called megabox, that was going to give the artists 90% of the revenue, instead of whatever the labels give them. It was going to let you download and listen to the music for free, as long as you installed a browser plugin called megakey which is like an adblocker except it replaces some ads with ads from megabox. They have continued with this idea after the raid, It is now going to be called baboom.com

You can preview it now with dotcoms album but apparently it will be launching for real soon. And then all the artists in their Mega song which Universal Music Group didnt like. NZ artist Gin Wigmore was going to be in it but her record label made her pull out

Which is a shame and will probably drive a lot of small publishers out of business - if this service replaces the ads on Geekzone and they make money instead of my company, how are we supposed to keep this running?

It's evil.

Adware is wrong, I do say this while using an ad blocker, profiting off other peoples websites is basically stealing.

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#1075155 26-Jun-2014 17:58

freitasm:
Yabanize: Before the raid, Megaupload was going to launch a service called megabox, that was going to give the artists 90% of the revenue, instead of whatever the labels give them. It was going to let you download and listen to the music for free, as long as you installed a browser plugin called megakey which is like an adblocker except it replaces some ads with ads from megabox. They have continued with this idea after the raid, It is now going to be called baboom.com

You can preview it now with dotcoms album but apparently it will be launching for real soon. And then all the artists in their Mega song which Universal Music Group didnt like. NZ artist Gin Wigmore was going to be in it but her record label made her pull out

Which is a shame and will probably drive a lot of small publishers out of business - if this service replaces the ads on Geekzone and they make money instead of my company, how are we supposed to keep this running?

It's evil.

Yeah it could be a worry, but apparently From this article

Dotcom partially addressed this in an interview last week. When I mentioned NBR’s publisher would not be particularly thrilled with any piece of software that blocked this site’s ads, the Mega founder replied:

Here’s how we’ll do it at first. Only 10 percent of the ads you see will be ‘adjusted.’ This is not a general removal of ads. We’re not going to replace ads off small publishers, for example, or sites that have an Alexa rating below 100. That is not our goal. We’ll be taking it [ad revenue] from the big guys, and giving it to the smaller artists.

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#1075193 26-Jun-2014 18:52

Hijacking existing advertising for another commercial purpose is a spectacularly bad idea for any number of reasons.

There would be far less argument with a toolbar which floats some additional ads around the screen or forces the user to dismiss them to see the content behind them.

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#1075194 26-Jun-2014 18:54

Btw, what does 'at first' mean?

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#1075242 26-Jun-2014 20:49

gzt: Btw, what does 'at first' mean?

At first we'll only intercept 10% of the phone calls and internet traffic. ....
... and of course our parties aim is for everyone to have 'free' internet

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#1075320 26-Jun-2014 23:29

oxnsox:
gzt: Btw, what does 'at first' mean?

At first we'll only intercept 10% of the phone calls and internet traffic. ....
... and of course our parties aim is for everyone to have 'free' internet

Well, it is your choice whether you want to install it or not.. and whether or not you want to use baboom

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#1075363 27-Jun-2014 07:27

Another terrible business model from a man with zero integrity, and if he uses his political party to allow this to happen that is corruption. I cannot believe people are getting sucked in by the criminal numpty

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#1075689 27-Jun-2014 17:46

Hmmm, well when the internet party was the internet party I would have been happier to vote for them, Mana seems like a bad choice of partner.
I had quite a bit of sympathy for dotcoms rather outrageous arrest , if it was anyone else that had copyright fraud charges the police would have considered it a civil matter.

The good thing however is it has raised some questions over privacy, spying,political donations and lobbying ( which is quintessential corruption).
It's pretty clear to see that National or Labour exist on this type of funding and wont do much about it whilst it lines their coffers.

He has concerns in the right area, tpp, Us global policy and he has a point about restrictive patents and copyrights. I was very impressed by Elon Musks opening of his Tesla car patents.

I would prefer to vote for Elon Musk or Ron Paul but I think that the internet party still has an honest agenda regardless of dotcoms history. It's not like the rest are saints and they are manipulated to tow the line which again goes against my ideals of a democracy. Frankly when I see a smear campaign in the news media I know what is driving it and I vote for parties that show innovation rather than a religious adherence to a broken system.
So for me it's either Greens or Internet.
Still not 100% sure.

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#1075711 27-Jun-2014 18:29

turnin: Hmmm, well when the internet party was the internet party I would have been happier to vote for them, Mana seems like a bad choice of partner.
I had quite a bit of sympathy for dotcoms rather outrageous arrest , if it was anyone else that had copyright fraud charges the police would have considered it a civil matter.

The good thing however is it has raised some questions over privacy, spying,political donations and lobbying ( which is quintessential corruption).
It's pretty clear to see that National or Labour exist on this type of funding and wont do much about it whilst it lines their coffers.

He has concerns in the right area, tpp, Us global policy and he has a point about restrictive patents and copyrights. I was very impressed by Elon Musks opening of his Tesla car patents.

I would prefer to vote for Elon Musk or Ron Paul but I think that the internet party still has an honest agenda regardless of dotcoms history. It's not like the rest are saints and they are manipulated to tow the line which again goes against my ideals of a democracy. Frankly when I see a smear campaign in the news media I know what is driving it and I vote for parties that show innovation rather than a religious adherence to a broken system.
So for me it's either Greens or Internet.
Still not 100% sure.

Yeah, Im not sure if they will be a good combination either, Only time will tell I guess

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#1075838 27-Jun-2014 23:29

I wonder what peoples opinion of the internet party would be if kim dotcom wasnt behind it..

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#1075867 28-Jun-2014 01:06

Yabanize: I wonder what peoples opinion of the internet party would be if kim dotcom wasnt behind it..

No one would have even noticed it... including Mana.

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#1075878 28-Jun-2014 06:39

Yabanize: I wonder what peoples opinion of the internet party would be if kim dotcom wasnt behind it..

No opinion, it would not have existed. Its a pointless creation by a meaningless person.

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#1082622 7-Jul-2014 18:56

A little bit off topic, But Dotcom tweeted earlier

@KimDotcom: New extradition hearing date 16 Feb 2015 Still didn't receive a copy of my seized data. That's the data the FBI shipped to the US illegally

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