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Glassboy:KiwiNZ:Glassboy:KiwiNZ:Glassboy:KiwiNZ:
What is Socialism in your view?
You can find the answer to that question in a whole host of 100 level university text books.
You have written 100 text books .... impressive
my question was "What is Socialism in your view?
With all due respect, if I want to have a discussion about the political forces that have shaped the last three centuries I generally do it with a) a beer, and b) people who are knowledgeable on the subject.
As usual a passive aggressive response from you to a cilvil question.
Just as aside you do not know me, my beliefs, background or qualifications, I will let you in on one aspect, I was raised to respect others and to use common manners, give it a try sometime.
You're not demonstrating either manners or an understanding of what passive aggressive means.
KiwiNZ: You are right I was actually writing down right aggressive, but on that bye bye with the lack of an ignore function you sir are on virtual ignore.
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Old3eyes
afe66: The only political party I get nervious about the the Conservatives.
As an aetheist I dont want laws passed on the preferences of one religous group who believe in one brand of sky fairy. (When we know nz gods were Ranginui and Papatuanuku).
freitasm:KiwiNZ: You are right I was actually writing down right aggressive, but on that bye bye with the lack of an ignore function you sir are on virtual ignore.
Ah, but that is coming...
Glassboy: Short answer: amusement.
Longer answer: Generally net neutrality and privacy don't fit well with a socialist agenda. The most frightening calls for curtailing Internet freedom in NZ have been from the left. The world's remaining socialist counties generally have heavily filtered and monitored internet access. It will also be interesting to see how the Internet-Mana party copes with the Internet as a force to disrupt and replace traditional production and distribution.
I'm amused that they're cannibalising the Greens vote tho. But on the bright side they may encourage the young to vote, but they're likely in that aspect to be like the Greens, you vote for them the first time and then you realise it's not in your, the country's, or the environment's interest to do so again.
Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself - A. H. Weiler
jonathan18:geekiegeek: Has anyone stopped to think what our government and country would be like if this motley crew actually managed to get into power?
That presupposes that any minor coalition partner has the power to force the major party to support all of their policies. This classic claim of the tail wagging the dog is way over-stated, especially given how MMP has played out in NZ ever since its introduction.
The reality is minor parties typically (to continue the canine analogy) get thrown a few small bones for them to maintain their support of the government and some relatively minor ministerial roles, typically in the areas of most concern to that party. Hence such statements as above and one earlier regarding the Legalise Canabis Party really miss the point of (or, more accurately, the actual power wielded by) single-issue or topic-focused parties. Personally, I feel this is one of the positive outcomes of MMP, not a problem of the system.
Bring on the implementation of the Electoral Commission's recommendations, I say. The move to abolish the coat-tail rule and decrease the threshold to 4% are overdue. Collins' decision to not proceed with these changes is a sad example of self-serving politicisation.
robjg63:
NZ has a socialist agenda by world standards whether it be National or Labour in charge.
The scandinavian countries are heavily socialist - proudly so in fact.
Likewise Canada, Australia and the UK are socialist countries.
What is this 'curtailing' that socialist countries are imposing?
If you have China and North Korea in mind when making your statement I think you should research a little more on what socialism actually is. I think you may be mixing Marxism–Leninism with socialism.
alasta:afe66: The only political party I get nervious about the the Conservatives.
As an aetheist I dont want laws passed on the preferences of one religous group who believe in one brand of sky fairy. (When we know nz gods were Ranginui and Papatuanuku).
Why do people assume that social conservatives are all reglious? The Conservative Party is a secular conservative movement in the same way that NZ First is.
In fact, Colin Craig hasn't been to church for years and Christine Rankin has openly stated that she would not be involved with the party if it had a religious agenda.
afe66:
Tea Party Movement in US is "Absolutely neccessary"
Q. "Do you believe the world was created in 7 days? "Dont know, I wasnt there. Seems there are lots of theories and opinions."
Why not a yes or no answer?
Q. "Do you believe in creationism should be taught in schools as a valid alternative to evolution", "This is the predominant world view (although in various forms). As above schools are meant to educate and so I think it should also be taught."
So yes to creationism being taught in schools but probably not support Ranginui and Papatuanuku version of creation as they must be wrong as heathen myth.
Q. on Abortion.
"Our abortion policy is to bring in “full and informed consent” as practiced in Western European nations. We think that this policy could gain support to become law."
Bit surprised by this bit. But then again which western european countries. Ireland bit different from Sweden.
http://yournz.org/2013/11/16/colin-craig-answers-nbr/
Edit Reason: Glaring typo >>
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alasta:afe66: The only political party I get nervious about the the Conservatives.
As an aetheist I dont want laws passed on the preferences of one religous group who believe in one brand of sky fairy. (When we know nz gods were Ranginui and Papatuanuku).
Why do people assume that social conservatives are all reglious?
afe66: Below are some things I came accross. I'm a little reluctant to do this for fear it will turn into a heated discussion which often on the internet gets nasty,
but I suppose I should give some indication of why I am concerned.
NZ Women are promiscusous
I'm married I live my life a certain way
Sex outside committed relationship is wrong
I'm a very strong, committed christian,but not a church goer
Had weekly prayers in his office
Not support gay marriage.
I dont think think majority of NZ want to 'redefine marriage' http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/im-not-church-goer-colin-craig-ck-118705
"A belief in the equality of all New Zealanders and that all citizens, regardless of race, gender or religion, have equal rights and privileges"
No reference to sexual orientation being part of freedom of the individual on conservative party website, although sexual orientation is mentioned in anti discrimination law.
(this is on the conservative party website)
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