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  # 1704369 16-Jan-2017 20:49
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networkn:

 

Here is a much more appropriate, considerably less condescending and insulting reply you could have posted, that would have been easily as effective. 

 

I decided not to respond to the rest, I felt it non-productive (I don't see you ever changing your position), but I couldn't disagree with you more on most of it. For the record, I am not "high tailing it", I am simply not engaging you, as much as I want to,

 

to avoid detracting this conversation.  

 

 

This is all pretty rich coming from someone who deliberately twisted another person's words, not once but twice in a short period. And in a thread where your reading comprehension has demonstrably proven to be an issue, you might like to re-read what I was referencing in regards to hightailing.


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  # 1704383 16-Jan-2017 21:25
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/politics/trump-obamacare/

 

Here's a story - that if Trump can pull it off - I'll support him on that.

 

I suspect he's f*rting against thunder, as high drug prices are only one aspect to the bloated cost of healthcare in the US. 

 

He's also been tweeting anti-vaccination nonsense, which makes me wonder if he's got any expertise at all.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1704415 16-Jan-2017 21:55
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NBC: After meeting with President-elect Donald Trump at Trump Tower Tuesday, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. [nephew of dead president] told reporters that Trump has asked him to "chair a commission on vaccination safety and scientific integrity" and that he has accepted. Both Trump and Kennedy have spread fringe theories linking vaccines to autism in children, an idea that medical experts overwhelmingly reject and have warned is endangering public health by discouraging parents from immunizing their kids.

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  # 1704419 16-Jan-2017 22:08
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Fred99:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/politics/trump-obamacare/


Here's a story - that if Trump can pull it off - I'll support him on that.


I suspect he's f*rting against thunder, as high drug prices are only one aspect to the bloated cost of healthcare in the US. 



Well who knows. I suspect it's just more calculated but empty ranting. The Republican party seems desperate to change ObamaCare so he will have a bit of sway there. I expect it will be something that benefits very few + a generous discount on Asprin.

There is an enormous amount of money in any American health change so I'm sure he'll have a queue of new friends in that area of business.

He's also been tweeting anti-vaccination nonsense, which makes me wonder if he's got any expertise at all.


That would be consistent with the Alex Jones thing, and to some extent the various other fringe groups Trump cultivates.

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  # 1704420 16-Jan-2017 22:11
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dejadeadnz:

 

networkn:

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. Just Wow. A Lawyer that believes in guilty till proven innocent. 

 

If he DID do it (and is convicted), (as I made VERY clear earlier) then he should be hung out to dry and punished to the full extent of the law, but until the time he is convicted, he is innocent of those allegations.

 

Just in case you decide to twist my words, that does NOT mean I am an apologist, nor does it mean I support or like him, it simply means I believe he should be treated like anyone else accused of a crime. 

 

For the record, I found what he *said* revolting and foul.  

 

 

Let's just play your schoolyard game for a moment. I'm a lawyer, practiced, and actually have a first class honours masters degree in law. You might not know some of these facts but given your, shall I charitably put it, prolific posting on here, you must understand that I have an obvious and irrefutable legal background. Do you seriously and from the bottom of your heart think that I believe what you are asserting? How can he be guilty of anything absent a conviction by a competent court of law? You're simply twisting my words out of context for the sake of "I got him! I got him!" -- this is just incredibly puerile. And you know what's funny? This is the second time in a day or so where you have blatantly twisted my words and I note that on the other occasion where I eviscerated your argument, you hightailed.

 

What I meant -- and meant absolutely no more than this -- is that Trump by his own words has shown that he's a misogynistic moron through saying that committing sexual assault and harassment of women is okay. The fact that you were independently advised to review your stance by someone who isn't exactly known for agreeing with me should have given you cause to stop defending the indefensible.

 

You clearly have a problem with me and that's fine. But how about not dragging this into almost every thread in which I post?

 

 

 

 

Not sure there is any need to lower the tone of this thread to this level. Your writings dont seem to indicate your level of education..maybe an apology is best?


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  # 1704421 16-Jan-2017 22:13
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Fred99:

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/politics/trump-obamacare/

 

Here's a story - that if Trump can pull it off - I'll support him on that.

 

I suspect he's f*rting against thunder, as high drug prices are only one aspect to the bloated cost of healthcare in the US. 

 

He's also been tweeting anti-vaccination nonsense, which makes me wonder if he's got any expertise at all.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, but sadly I don't believe much of what he says. In him saying this probably means he has no clue.

 

The news today stated that they were close to unraveling the Obamacare legislation, but no one had any idea what to replace it with.


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  # 1704423 16-Jan-2017 22:19
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gzt:
NBC: After meeting with President-elect Donald Trump at Trump Tower Tuesday, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. [nephew of dead president] told reporters that Trump has asked him to "chair a commission on vaccination safety and scientific integrity" and that he has accepted. Both Trump and Kennedy have spread fringe theories linking vaccines to autism in children, an idea that medical experts overwhelmingly reject and have warned is endangering public health by discouraging parents from immunizing their kids.


 

Give it a couple of more days and Jenny McCarthy will be given a post on that commission :/


 
 
 
 


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  # 1704424 16-Jan-2017 22:23
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Pumpedd:

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure there is any need to lower the tone of this thread to this level. Your writings dont seem to indicate your level of education..maybe an apology is best?

 

 

Yes, I see how the tone of this thread was invaluably uplifted by Networkn twisting my words to the nth degree. Next time something like that happens to you, be sure to offer a public apology for being offended!

 

Meanwhile, back on topic: no one should be surprised that Trump is yet again pretending to share the concerns of the poor but stupid rednecks who voted for him. Those people suffered from the cognitive dissonance of somehow believing that, his lifelong record of not giving a crap for anyone else notwithstanding, he is somehow going to share their concerns and advance their causes. All Trump has done is hit on the things that these people care about (rightly or wrongly) and pretending to be interested in them. Everything from the likes of his cabinet choices to his person record suggests that he will do nothing for many of the people who voted for him.

 

All the above combined with his outsized, grandiose view of himself is just leading him to promise everything to everybody, including offering universal health insurance coverage without having aspects of Obamacare that riles the nasty right wingers that are actually essential in making it work.

 

 

 

 


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  # 1704428 16-Jan-2017 22:50
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Pumpedd:

 

Fred99:

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/15/politics/trump-obamacare/

 

Here's a story - that if Trump can pull it off - I'll support him on that.

 

I suspect he's f*rting against thunder, as high drug prices are only one aspect to the bloated cost of healthcare in the US. 

 

He's also been tweeting anti-vaccination nonsense, which makes me wonder if he's got any expertise at all.

 

 

 

 

Agreed, but sadly I don't believe much of what he says. In him saying this probably means he has no clue.

 

The news today stated that they were close to unraveling the Obamacare legislation, but no one had any idea what to replace it with.

 

 

To summarise, talk is cheap, that seems to be the Trump mantra. 

 

Take Obamacare. Make it better, it costs more. make it cheaper, it does less. It's basic math.

 

Take tax cuts. Great, awesome, who will pay for it? Unfortunately, 2 + 2 doesn't equal 3


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  # 1704429 16-Jan-2017 23:02
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Rikkitic:

 

JimsonWeed:

 

A balance of power is quintessential to democracy.

 

 

'Essential' would be the correct word choice here. A balance of power is essential to democracy. 'Quintessential' is an adjective and doesn't add anything because you can't get more essential than 'essential'. Here is a good example from http://english.stackexchange.com/: 'An essential chocolate cake is one you can't get by without, even if other chocolate cakes are actually better. A quintessential chocolate cake is a perfect example of a chocolate cake, but not necessarily important or needed. – Kate Gregory'

 

 

 

 

Perhaps not the best example - NO chocolate cake is essential..!






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  # 1704431 16-Jan-2017 23:03
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dejadeadnz:

 

Pumpedd:

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure there is any need to lower the tone of this thread to this level. Your writings dont seem to indicate your level of education..maybe an apology is best?

 

 

Yes, I see how the tone of this thread was invaluably uplifted by Networkn twisting my words to the nth degree. Next time something like that happens to you, be sure to offer a public apology for being offended!

 

Meanwhile, back on topic: no one should be surprised that Trump is yet again pretending to share the concerns of the poor but stupid rednecks who voted for him. Those people suffered from the cognitive dissonance of somehow believing that, his lifelong record of not giving a crap for anyone else notwithstanding, he is somehow going to share their concerns and advance their causes. All Trump has done is hit on the things that these people care about (rightly or wrongly) and pretending to be interested in them. Everything from the likes of his cabinet choices to his person record suggests that he will do nothing for many of the people who voted for him.

 

All the above combined with his outsized, grandiose view of himself is just leading him to promise everything to everybody, including offering universal health insurance coverage without having aspects of Obamacare that riles the nasty right wingers that are actually essential in making it work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They aren't all dumb, poor rednecks that voted him in. I'd suggest most were Republican voters that had no choice but to vote for him. IMHO his bark is worse than his bite. Its all talk. There won't be very much action that matches the talk. Like everything else post election its been diluted, backtracked. He is one sad individual that will embarrass the US, possibly isolate the US to a degree, especially on trade if he plays hardball. But who will run the country are the scores of advisors. There will be some dumb stuff that he will do, so that he doesn't get a 0/10 promises to action result. He will have the public lose faith in him when the doesn't deliver. He's now offside with the security and CIA. Its laughable, but he ain't gonna run the show. Steadily he is digging a hole he won't get out of, and he isn't even the POTUS yet. Its early days.


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  # 1704439 17-Jan-2017 01:34
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freitasm:

 

Banned because on top of the warning there's the image above.

 

 

And will F99 get banned as well for posting the same kind of pictures as Jimsonweed?


 

 


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  # 1704441 17-Jan-2017 04:35
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Don't go there. He was banned for all the trolling, calling people names. The picture called people idiots. And he sent me an email calling me a Nazi.

His true colours showed through and he lasted here as much as he could.

If you have a problem with this let me know.




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  # 1704480 17-Jan-2017 09:06
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 The trickle-down effect?

 

In a "playful gesture" a Republican Politician grabs a woman by the genitals:

 

 

"I love this new world, I no longer have to be politically correct."

 

"it would be your word against mine and nobody will believe you."

 


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  # 1704492 17-Jan-2017 09:15
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Fred99:

 

 The trickle-down effect?

 

In a "playful gesture" a Republican Politician grabs a woman by the genitals:

 

 

"I love this new world, I no longer have to be politically correct."

 

"it would be your word against mine and nobody will believe you."

 

 

 

The America like (half of) it wants to be, land of the free.





Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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