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  # 1774125 2-May-2017 11:19
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Fred99:

 

... they wanted help from Russia or the US  to "launch a weather satellite" and spat the dummy when told no. I wonder about that - what the problem would have been, ...

 

 

If you can launch an object into a Polar orbit, you can make it come down anywhere in the world. It would probably have limited payload though. OTOH, if you can launch an orbital vehicle, then you can also launch a sub-orbital vehicle which could come down anywhere in half the world, but with a much larger payload.

 

The USA and Japan don't want North Korea to have this capability. Depending on your point of view, that would be either a pistol at USA's head, or bring balance to North Korea's bargaining position by negating the USA's nuclear threat.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1774699 2-May-2017 22:53
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Fred99:

 

... they wanted help from Russia or the US  to "launch a weather satellite" and spat the dummy when told no. I wonder about that - what the problem would have been, ...

 

 

If you can launch an object into a Polar orbit, you can make it come down anywhere in the world. It would probably have limited payload though. OTOH, if you can launch an orbital vehicle, then you can also launch a sub-orbital vehicle which could come down anywhere in half the world, but with a much larger payload.

 

The USA and Japan don't want North Korea to have this capability. Depending on your point of view, that would be either a pistol at USA's head, or bring balance to North Korea's bargaining position by negating the USA's nuclear threat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

KMS-04 "Bright Star" already flies over NZ:

 

 

You can track it here.

 

 

 

IIRC the payload capacity of the launch vehicle to low earth orbit is a few hundred (400?) kg.

 

The Americans had developed 1kt devices that weighed only 23kg by the early 60s.

 

 


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  # 1774926 3-May-2017 13:11
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gzt: Australian imprisoned in USA because overstayed visa one hour.

 

Rules are rules, right?

 

 

Seems pretty harsh. I wonder why Canada also had an issue with him. And if he is stepping his two feet outside the US, then back again, thats flouting the visa intentions?

 

However, he should have been deported if anything. To jail him for a not satisfying Visa conditions is stupid.


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  # 1774972 3-May-2017 14:58
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I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.





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  # 1774973 3-May-2017 15:01
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I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.


What particularly this week?

 
 
 
 


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  # 1774975 3-May-2017 15:03
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I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.

 

 

Which ones?

 

 

 

So far, his bark is worse than his bite, he seems contained. So far


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  # 1774977 3-May-2017 15:05
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I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.

 

 

Haha that's like nearly 12 months later than when the rest of the planet were concerned!





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  # 1774978 3-May-2017 15:10
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joker97:


gzt: Australian imprisoned in USA because overstayed visa one hour.


Rules are rules, right?



Seems pretty harsh. I wonder why Canada also had an issue with him. And if he is stepping his two feet outside the US, then back again, thats flouting the visa intentions?


However, he should have been deported if anything. To jail him for a not satisfying Visa conditions is stupid.


Yeah good point. Just saw a related article where Canada rejected him:
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Mr Reid's father, Tom Reid, told the Canberra Times that the couple arrived at the Canadian border at 10:00pm on Saturday.

The 26-year-old's visa was due to expire at midnight.

'For some reason the Canadians kept them until 1.30am and then they refused them entry,' he said.

'They returned them to the United States and by then they were an hour and a half over the visa, and [he] got locked up.'


Edit: which is more or less what the original article says.

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  # 1774991 3-May-2017 15:23
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joker97:

 

MikeB4:

 

I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.

 

 

Haha that's like nearly 12 months later than when the rest of the planet were concerned!

 

 

I'm still waiting to get my concerned stamp. I feel he has toned down a bit now. Maybe that happened after he was told 45 times to calm down. Maybe it was the 46th time


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  # 1775009 3-May-2017 15:53
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tdgeek:

 

joker97:

 

MikeB4:

 

I have to admit after reading the latest snippets about Mr Trump this week I am now genuinely concerned about the future of this planet.

 

 

Haha that's like nearly 12 months later than when the rest of the planet were concerned!

 

 

I'm still waiting to get my concerned stamp. I feel he has toned down a bit now. Maybe that happened after he was told 45 times to calm down. Maybe it was the 46th time

 

 

Ok.





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  # 1775050 3-May-2017 16:25
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tdgeek:

 

joker97:

 

gzt: Australian imprisoned in USA because overstayed visa one hour.

 

Rules are rules, right?

 

 

Seems pretty harsh. I wonder why Canada also had an issue with him. And if he is stepping his two feet outside the US, then back again, thats flouting the visa intentions?

 

However, he should have been deported if anything. To jail him for a not satisfying Visa conditions is stupid.

 

 

The "one hour" thing is irrelevant. Since he couldn't get into Canada, he was going to be inside the USA for the next several hours (and probably several days) at least.

 

As you say, the big question is why he wasn't allowed into Canada. Perhaps he no longer had a visa for there?

 

 


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  # 1775076 3-May-2017 17:06
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If he behaves like your typical Aussie I could list a million reasons why he was rejected at the Canadian border. But I am just judging a book by its cover.





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# 1775137 3-May-2017 20:17
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If he behaves like your typical Aussie I could list a million reasons why he was rejected at the Canadian border. But I am just judging a book by its cover.

 

 

*Insert middle finger emoji here*


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