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  # 1847727 16-Aug-2017 18:36
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DaveB:

 

Are we watching America or Iraq? Very sad indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

I want to see the videos and/or pictures of them doing this to all the Washington and Jefferson statues all over the USA. After all they were both slave owners.

This is what american democracy looks like...


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  # 1847730 16-Aug-2017 18:57
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MaxLV:

 

DaveB:

 

Are we watching America or Iraq? Very sad indeed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I want to see the videos and/or pictures of them doing this to all the Washington and Jefferson statues all over the USA. After all they were both slave owners.

This is what american democracy looks like...

 

 

 

Annette Gordon-Reed, a professor of history and law at Harvard who is credited with breaking down the wall of resistance among historians to the idea that Jefferson had a sexual relationship with Sally Hemings, said that the answer to Mr. Trump’s hypothetical question about whether getting rid of Lee and Jackson also meant junking Washington and Jefferson was a simple “no.”

 

There is a crucial difference between leaders like Washington and Jefferson, imperfect men who helped create the United States, Ms. Gordon-Reed said, and Confederate generals like Jackson and Lee, whose main historical significance is that they took up arms against it. The comparison, she added, also “misapprehends the moral problem with the Confederacy.”

 

“This is not about the personality of an individual and his or her flaws,” she said. “This is about men who organized a system of government to maintain a system of slavery and to destroy the American union.”

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1847741 16-Aug-2017 19:36
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BBC - Trump tweets cartoon of train hitting CNN reporter

 

 

 

US President Donald Trump has posted an image of a train hitting a CNN reporter three days after a hit-and-run left one person dead at a far-right rally.

 

The cartoon, which Mr Trump deleted after tweeting, depicts the cable network logo being run over by a "Trump Train" symbolising his supporters.

 

White House officials told NBC the train image - captioned "Fake news can't stop the Trump Train" - had been "inadvertently posted" and "when noticed it was immediately deleted".

 





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  # 1847765 16-Aug-2017 20:18
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Fred99:

 

Mitt Romney doesn't believe they're "as bad as each other" either:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mindless deluded thugs. Alt right or alt left - they are cancerous and destructive idiots that have no place in todays society. Just read IGD, it is no better than that other website that luckily was not linked to in this thread a couple of days ago.


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  # 1847812 16-Aug-2017 22:53
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DaveB:

 

 

 

Mindless deluded thugs. Alt right or alt left - they are cancerous and destructive idiots that have no place in todays society. Just read IGD, it is no better than that other website that luckily was not linked to in this thread a couple of days ago.

 

 

So using force to oppose fascist thugs who use force is just as bad?

 

That's not much of a case.

 

I had no idea what IGD was - but you prompted me to look it up.

 

It is nowhere near as objectionable as the fascist white power website.  Not even in the same universe.

 

Of course it would scare fascists and "white nationalists", as they're usually cowards unless in groups. People not being intimidated by them is what they fear most.


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  # 1847815 16-Aug-2017 22:57
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"Race relations in America. Do you think they have got better or worse since you took office"? Trump: "I think they've gotten better" was the immediate response he gave without thinking!

 

 

Speaking without thinking is his signature move.


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  # 1847910 17-Aug-2017 08:55
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Web firm fights DoJ on Trump protesters
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-40935770

"A US service provider is fighting government demands for it to hand over details of millions of activists.

The Department of Justice (DoJ) wants all visitors' IP addresses - some 1.3 million - to a website that helped organise a protest on the day of President Trump's inauguration.

DreamHost is currently refusing to comply with the request and is due in court later this month.

The DoJ has not yet responded to requests for comment from the BBC.

It is unclear why it wants the internet protocol addresses of visitors to website disruptj20.org, which organised a protest against President Trump on 20 January - the day of his inauguration.

'The website was used in the development, planning, advertisement and organisation of a violent riot that occurred in Washington DC on January 20, 2017,' it wrote in its motion to the Superior Court of the District of Columbia, which sought to compel DreamHost to hand over the information.

It suggested that 'a particular customer' was the subject of the warrant, but does not explain why it needed so much information on other visitors.

'Digital dragnet'

In a blog post on the issue, DreamHost said that, like many other online service providers, it was regularly approached by law enforcement about customers who may be the subject of criminal investigations.

But, it added, it took issue with this particular search warrant 'for being a highly untargeted demand'.

In addition to the IP addresses, DreamHost said that the DoJ requested the contact information, email content and photos of 'thousands of visitors'.

Civil liberties group The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is helping DreamHost fight its case, said: 'No plausible explanation exists for a search warrant of this breadth, other than to cast a digital dragnet as broadly as possible.'

A hearing on the issue is due on 18 August."

In a sidenote, the Electronic Frontier Foundation is a great organization and deserves our support. The US still sets precendents for Internet policies.

https://www.eff.org/

 
 
 
 


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  # 1847915 17-Aug-2017 09:10
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CEOs of his "business council" started resigning, one by one, so so-called President Trump decided to bring down the council.

 

So much winning, he must be tired...





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  # 1847917 17-Aug-2017 09:13
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CEOs of his "business council" started resigning, one by one, so so-called President Trump decided to bring down the council.

 

So much winning, he must be tired...

 



Apparently that's not what happened, and they rang Trump to tell him they're disbanding. He's just taking credit for it.


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  # 1847926 17-Aug-2017 09:37
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That's what I meant. They started resigning, then decided to disband but Trump can't have it so he announced it is being taken down. Just 24 hours after saying there were many other CEOs eager to take these now vacant positions.





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  # 1847937 17-Aug-2017 10:01
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That's what I meant. They started resigning, then decided to disband but Trump can't have it so he announced it is being taken down. Just 24 hours after saying there were many other CEOs eager to take these now vacant positions.

 

 

 

 

Ugh... so cringe-worthy.





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  # 1847954 17-Aug-2017 10:56
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Is the end to this farcical presidency in plain sight now?

 

Surely his position is fast becoming untenable? 


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  # 1847970 17-Aug-2017 11:09
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Pumpedd:

 

Is the end to this farcical presidency in plain sight now?

 

Surely his position is fast becoming untenable? 

 



Not until the GOP are ready to disavow him. But they're steadily enacting their agenda while he distracts everyone, so I can't see it happening unless they take an absolute hammering in the mid-terms.


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  # 1847973 17-Aug-2017 11:14
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His only real agenda seems to be to undo everything Obama did regardless of its value.

 

He has even ordered the removal of a bike park at the White House that Obamas people put in...so sad.

 

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  # 1847977 17-Aug-2017 11:20
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This man is ugly inside his head. At this stage I think Pence would seem like a breath of fresh air.

 

 





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