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  # 2335537 11-Oct-2019 13:59
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Energy  Secretary Rick Perry has been subpoenaed.

 

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/2019-10-10.EEC%20Engel%20Schiff%20to%20Perry-DOE%20Joint%20Cover%20Letter%20re%20Subpoena.pdf

 

FWIW, this guy was appointed by the God-emperor 4 years after he'd campaigned for abolition of the Dept of Energy in a failed presidential run in 2012,  yet reportedly had no idea what the DoE does - he's in charge of the US nuclear arsenal. 

 

Trump has thrown him under the bus - stating that it was Perry's idea for Trump to make the call to Zelensky and that Trump didn't want to make the call.

 

But wait - Trump made the call anyway...

 

 

 

 


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  # 2335562 11-Oct-2019 14:18
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Fred99:

 

Energy  Secretary Rick Perry has been subpoenaed.

 

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/2019-10-10.EEC%20Engel%20Schiff%20to%20Perry-DOE%20Joint%20Cover%20Letter%20re%20Subpoena.pdf

 

FWIW, this guy was appointed by the God-emperor 4 years after he'd campaigned for abolition of the Dept of Energy in a failed presidential run in 2012,  yet reportedly had no idea what the DoE does - he's in charge of the US nuclear arsenal. 

 

Trump has thrown him under the bus - stating that it was Perry's idea for Trump to make the call to Zelensky and that Trump didn't want to make the call.

 

But wait - Trump made the call anyway...

 

 

 

 

 

 

I guess Trump will claim Phone Spurs and he can not possibly serve (prison time)


 
 
 
 


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  # 2335573 11-Oct-2019 14:37
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sir1963: ... I guess Trump will claim Phone Spurs and he can not possibly serve (prison time)

 

 

... and he's far too busy defending Truth, Justice, and the American Way ...

 





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  # 2335631 11-Oct-2019 15:30
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Sideface:

 

 

sir1963: ... I guess Trump will claim Phone Spurs and he can not possibly serve (prison time)

 

 

... and he's far too busy defending Truth, Justice, and the American Way ...

 

 

 

Fixed it for you

 

and he's far too busy offending Truth, Justice, and the American Way ...


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  # 2335678 11-Oct-2019 16:20
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Wen asked about arrested his personal lawyer, Giuliani's, associates. what he did and didn't say was interesting.

“I don't know them, I don't know about them, I don't know what they do... I don't know, maybe they were clients of Rudy. You'd have to ask Rudy. I just don't know.”

And of course there's a photo of everyone I just mentioned, in the act of "not knowing each other"






What's interesting is he didn't say it was "fake news."

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  # 2335679 11-Oct-2019 16:21
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Trump's "red tide" - corrected:

 


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  # 2335682 11-Oct-2019 16:26
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Fred99:

Trump's "red tide" - corrected:



Here's a typical picture where most of Trump's supporter live.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2335683 11-Oct-2019 16:28
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kingdragonfly: 

“I don't know them, I don't know about them, I don't know what they do... I don't know, maybe they were clients of Rudy. You'd have to ask Rudy. I just don't know.”

 

Presidential amnesia:

 


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  # 2335685 11-Oct-2019 16:32
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It's hard to find a single whistleblower, when a crowd had said "don't do it."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/at-least-four-national-security-officials-raised-alarms-about-ukraine-policy-before-and-after-trump-call-with-ukrainian-president/2019/10/10/ffe0c88a-eb6d-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html

At least four national security officials raised alarms about Ukraine policy before and after Trump call with Ukrainian president

Washington Post By Greg Miller

At least four national security officials were so alarmed by the Trump administration’s attempts to pressure Ukraine for political purposes that they raised concerns with a White House lawyer both before and immediately after President Trump’s July 25 call with that country’s president, according to U.S. officials and other people familiar with the matter.

The nature and timing of the previously undisclosed discussions with National Security Council legal adviser John Eisenberg indicate that officials were delivering warnings through official White House channels earlier than previously understood — including before the call that precipitated a whistleblower complaint and the impeachment inquiry of the president.

At the time, the officials were unnerved by the removal in May of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, by subsequent efforts by Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani to promote Ukraine-related conspiracies, as well as by signals in meetings at the White House that Trump wanted the new government in Kiev to deliver material that might be politically damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Those concerns soared in the call’s aftermath, officials said. Within minutes, senior officials including national security adviser John Bolton were being pinged by subordinates about problems with what the president had said to his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. Bolton and others scrambled to obtain a rough transcript that was already being “locked down” on a highly classified computer network.

“When people were listening to this in real time, there were significant concerns about what was going on — alarm bells were kind of ringing,” said one person familiar with the sequence of events inside the White House, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter. “People were trying to figure out what to do, how to get a grasp on the situation.”
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  # 2335695 11-Oct-2019 16:48
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Trump is Handling Crisis Very Badly

Jimmy Kimmel Live

Trump tweets about the 'Do Nothing Democrats,' misspells one of his favorite words 'Wirch Hunt,' put out a statement about the mess he made in Syria, and looked to his MAGA 8 Ball for assistance. Joe Biden calls for Trump's impeachment, and Melania breaks ground on a new tennis pavilion at the White House.


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  # 2335707 11-Oct-2019 17:12
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On the Fox news website, headlines were about Biden with headlines like "Trump Pounces" and "Trump trolls Joe Biden, rolls out new T-shirt idea during Minneapolis rally"

Guess where's the news item about the arrest of his personal lawyer, Giuliani's, associates? Only news item is after "Man died after fish cake burned his throat so badly he couldn’t breathe"

Notice it doesn't say "Ukraine" or "Trump" in Giuliani headline.


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  # 2335712 11-Oct-2019 17:32
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GOP senator refuses to answer Trump question five times

CNN

Senator Cory Gardner (Republican-Colorado), who faces a tough election in 2020, refused to answer whether it's appropriate for President Trump to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival.


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  # 2335722 11-Oct-2019 18:01
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Lindsey Graham is an deep-South evangelist, anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, gun-loving Southern Republican Senator. He's also the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Here's his thoughts about impeachment, when it's was about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.


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  # 2335770 11-Oct-2019 20:08
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The Washington Post - We investigated the Watergate scandal. We believe Trump should be impeached.

 

By 17 former Watergate special prosecutors *

 

Oct. 11, 2019

 


We, former members of the Watergate special prosecutor force, believe there exists compelling prima facie evidence that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses. 

 

This evidence can be accepted as sufficient for impeachment, unless disproved by any contrary evidence that the president may choose to offer.

 

The ultimate judgment on whether to impeach the president is for members of the House of Representatives to make. 

 

The Constitution establishes impeachment as the proper mechanism for addressing these abuses; therefore, the House should proceed with the impeachment process, fairly, openly and promptly. 

 

The president’s refusal to cooperate in confirming (or disputing) the facts already on the public record should not delay or frustrate the House’s performance of its constitutional duty.

 

In reaching these conclusions, we take note of :

 

1) the public statements by Trump himself;

 

2) the findings of former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation; 

3) the readout that the president released of his phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky; 

4) the president’s continuing refusal to produce documents or allow testimony by current and former government employees for pending investigations, as well as for oversight matters; and 

5) other information now publicly available, including State Department text messages indicating that the release of essential military aid to Ukraine was conditioned on Ukraine’s willingness to commence a criminal investigation designed to further the president’s political interests. ...

 

 


The following signers are all former members of the Justice Department’s special prosecutor team that investigated the Watergate scandal:

 

Richard Ben-Veniste, former member of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
Richard J. Davis, former assistant secretary of the treasury for enforcement and operations
Carl B. Feldbaum, former inspector general for Defense Intelligence, former assistant to the energy secretary and former chief of staff to Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter
George T. Frampton Jr., former assistant secretary of the Interior and former chair of the White House Council on Environmental Quality
Kenneth S. Geller, formerly deputy U.S. solicitor general
Gerald Goldman, former clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan 
Stephen E. Haberfeld, former U.S. magistrate judge in the Central District of California
Larry Hammond, former first deputy assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel
Henry Hecht, lecturer in residence at University of California at Berkeley School of Law
Paul R. Hoeber, lawyer in private practice
Philip Allen Lacovara, former deputy solicitor general of the United States; former special counsel to the House Ethics Committee; and former president of the D.C. Bar
Paul R. Michel, former chief judge for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit and former associate deputy attorney general of the United States
Robert L. Palmer, lawyer in private practice
Richard Weinberg, former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York
Jill Wine-Banks, former general counsel of the U.S. Army; former solicitor general and deputy attorney general of the state of Illinois; and former chief operating officer of the American Bar Association 





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