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  #1985022 28-Mar-2018 15:55
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gzt: At which point did Curran fail to acknowledge the meeting?


Quote from NZ herald article previously linked on page 123...

"Curran had initially omitted the meeting with Hirschfeld from a list of meetings when she was asked about it in a Parliamentary written question in December."


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  #1985024 28-Mar-2018 15:59
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

Labour are (assuming they succeed, which seems unlikely) only building 40000 homes, not 100,000 homes.... Is it not time they stopped all references to the 100,000?

 

 

Labour in January came out and said they were going to adjust their 100K number, to include houses built by private sector. 

 

Why this didn't cause an uproar is amazing to me. 

 

WE will build, isn't WE if they don't pay any part in building it. 

 

Disgraceful. 


 
 
 
 


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  #1985040 28-Mar-2018 16:13
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networkn:

 

Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has now confirmed that there is Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand. In answer to a question in Parliament today, Peters said: "The NZSIS advise us it is aware of Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand and where it is seen, appropriate action is taken.

 

This Government is a shambles. It's embarrassing. 

 

 

 

 

It would seem as if they don't even have a basic understanding of the whole Russian situation - other countries haven't been expelling spies, they've been expelling diplomats. Big difference. 

 

Of course there's a lot of other area's where I'd question their understanding too...


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  #1985047 28-Mar-2018 16:36
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And now for something completely different t's Monty Pythons flying Parliament and the Ministry of Silly Sods 





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  #1985051 28-Mar-2018 16:51
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networkn:

 

Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has now confirmed that there is Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand. In answer to a question in Parliament today, Peters said: "The NZSIS advise us it is aware of Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand and where it is seen, appropriate action is taken.

 

 

 

This Government is a shambles. It's embarrassing. 

 

 

 

 

What is it with Winston and Russia? Seems he is closer to Russia than Trump.

 

This is a serious issue as all our KEY allies have expelled Russians in a show of force.....yet the PM says we havent because we have no spies here...she should resign.


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  #1985087 28-Mar-2018 18:48
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Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has now confirmed that there is Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand. In answer to a question in Parliament today, Peters said: "The NZSIS advise us it is aware of Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand and where it is seen, appropriate action is taken.


 


This Government is a shambles. It's embarrassing. 


 



Didn't our Great Leader tell us just yesterday that this wasn't the case?





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  #1985088 28-Mar-2018 18:55
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rjt123:

 

other countries haven't been expelling spies, they've been expelling diplomats. Big difference. 

 

 

 

 

Unless that was sarcasm, you might want to take another look... They've been expelling "undeclared intelligence officers"

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/four-eu-states-set-to-expel-russian-diplomats-over-skripal-attack

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-27/russian-diplomats-to-be-expelled-from-australia/9590790

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1985099 28-Mar-2018 19:19
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rjt123:

 

other countries haven't been expelling spies, they've been expelling diplomats. Big difference. 

 

 

 

 

Unless that was sarcasm, you might want to take another look... They've been expelling "undeclared intelligence officers"

 

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/26/four-eu-states-set-to-expel-russian-diplomats-over-skripal-attack

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-27/russian-diplomats-to-be-expelled-from-australia/9590790

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, because spies always write down "Spy" under profession when they fill in paperwork....!! yell






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  #1985110 28-Mar-2018 19:47
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rjt123:
gzt: At which point did Curran fail to acknowledge the meeting?


Quote from NZ herald article previously linked on page 123...

"Curran had initially omitted the meeting with Hirschfeld from a list of meetings when she was asked about it in a Parliamentary written question in December."

I regard that as very serious. So does the Westminster system of parliament:

Stuff: Prime Minister John Key has been forced to admit he misled Parliament over his contact with blogger Cameron Slater before the release of the SIS report this week.

Key did not resign. I don't recall the Speaker's position at the time. Personally I'd prefer to seen the minister dropped in this scenario to bolster precedent. Unfortunately.. given Key's example that seems a bit less likely..

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  #1985116 28-Mar-2018 20:13
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Geektastic:

 

Didn't our Great Leader tell us just yesterday that this wasn't the case?

 

What did Jacinda say about it? :)

 

 


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  #1985117 28-Mar-2018 20:13
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This is damning. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12022002

 

In just two weeks, there have been at least eight, all either woefully mishandled by Ardern or reflecting the inherent instability of the first Government reliant on both NZ First and the Greens.

 

 


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  #1985144 28-Mar-2018 21:06
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This is damning. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12022002

 

In just two weeks, there have been at least eight, all either woefully mishandled by Ardern or reflecting the inherent instability of the first Government reliant on both NZ First and the Greens.

 

 

 

 

If only they would listen to you.

 

 





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  #1985152 28-Mar-2018 21:17
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Rikkitic:

 

networkn:

 

This is damning. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12022002

 

In just two weeks, there have been at least eight, all either woefully mishandled by Ardern or reflecting the inherent instability of the first Government reliant on both NZ First and the Greens.

 

 

 

 

If only they would listen to you.

 

 

 

 

So back to the snark? You managed to hold it off for what? Two posts?

 

Do you not agree with the premise of the article (Which for the record, if you check, *I* did not write) ? If you don't agree, why do you not provide an alternative set of evidence or at least an argument to support the view that the article is incorrect. 

 

 

 

 


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  #1985165 28-Mar-2018 21:39
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Geektastic:

 

Didn't our Great Leader tell us just yesterday that this wasn't the case?

 

What did Jacinda say about it? :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asked whether there were any declared Russian intelligence officers in New Zealand, Ardern said she was “loath to speak too openly about some of the security briefings that I receive”.

 

“But I am very happy to say that we did ask the question around those who fit the bill of what other countries have been expelling and we have no-one of that sort in New Zealand.”






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  #1985167 28-Mar-2018 21:40
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networkn:

This is damning. 


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12022002


In just two weeks, there have been at least eight, all either woefully mishandled by Ardern or reflecting the inherent instability of the first Government reliant on both NZ First and the Greens.


Personally I found that article a lot less than damning. It provides some reasonable balance saying that Clark's government faced similar challenges initially and went on to govern sucessfully for another two terms.

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