Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | ... | 268
18347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1908841 28-Nov-2017 10:33
Send private message

Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

Fred99:

 

sen8or:

 

Michael "Can we Tax it, Yes we Can" Cullen

 

 

The "tax on (almost) everything" (GST) wasn't his idea.

 

 

Kiwisaver, Super, Working For Families, were, they seem like sound ideas

 

 

I don't think WFF was a good idea at all:

 

it was an admission of defeat, that ordinary working people with children in the post-reform low-wage high-cost economy were struggling to get by.

 

It effectively penalised young people without children who were on low wages but not eligible for any WFF payment, and made it harder for them to get ahead as it cemented the low-wage economy - combined with a double-whammy for that generation with tertiary fees and repaying student loans, at a time in life when you should be trying to put money aside for your future life, a deposit on a house etc.

 

Instead of giving away money, I'd have rather seen an all-out attack on low wages, "real" job creation, and a high tax-free threshold.

 

 

 

 

Isnt a high tax free threshold giving away money? And more than WFF as that is effectively a high tax threshold but just for families. If taxes are low, then the wages are under less pressure to rise, especially as where does these tax breaks get funded from? If wages are increased, costs get passed on. If we upskilled every single worker, we still have the same jobs that need to get done. We would then be either better skilled and doing the same job, or also getting paid more to do the same job, someone has to cover those costs. There is no easy solution as Govt revenue is not unlimited, in fact its very tight, same for many people.


13445 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1908919 28-Nov-2017 11:40
One person supports this post
Send private message

Why should your income tax payments be dependent on your breeding choices and/or ability?

 

Environmentally, a no child household is significantly more desirable than a 5 child household (or indeed even a 1 child household) so that choice should be recognised and rewarded at least as much as the choice to produce children. Environmentally, paying people to have children is unsustainable.






 
 
 
 


13445 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1908920 28-Nov-2017 11:41
Send private message

tdgeek:

 

The purpose of the TWG is to make the existing tax take, fairer. Its not to increase the tax take. Some taxes will  increase, some will decrease, some will be added some will be removed

 

Thats been very clearly stated.

 

Or, thats not much good as we cannot whinge about that so we will pretend that its add tax add tax add tax working group so we can diss the Govt?

 

 

 

 

I suspect that you will find that the definition of "fairer" depends on who is using it...






18347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1908928 28-Nov-2017 12:06
Send private message

Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

The purpose of the TWG is to make the existing tax take, fairer. Its not to increase the tax take. Some taxes will  increase, some will decrease, some will be added some will be removed

 

Thats been very clearly stated.

 

Or, thats not much good as we cannot whinge about that so we will pretend that its add tax add tax add tax working group so we can diss the Govt?

 

 

 

 

I suspect that you will find that the definition of "fairer" depends on who is using it...

 

 

I agree. If you voted for the Opposition its not fairer, no matter how perfect it may be set. If you voted for National and they were the Govt and were doing the same thing, it would be awesome

 

Signed:

 

Human Nature Esq.


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911554 1-Dec-2017 10:59
Send private message

Peters might be a candidate for NZ dick of the year. (To be fair there have been quite a few)

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11951124

 

Just another embarrassing situation caused by him opening his mouth.

 

 


13445 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911568 1-Dec-2017 11:38
Send private message

networkn:

 

Peters might be a candidate for NZ dick of the year. (To be fair there have been quite a few)

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11951124

 

Just another embarrassing situation caused by him opening his mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

People really do manage to blow the slightest thing up into "news" these days, don't they?

 

I think all NZ papers should be prosecuted under Trades Description laws for not referring to themselves as "Gossip and Inane Sh*t Papers" rather than "Newspapers"!






18347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1911573 1-Dec-2017 11:43
Send private message

Geektastic:

 

networkn:

 

Peters might be a candidate for NZ dick of the year. (To be fair there have been quite a few)

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11951124

 

Just another embarrassing situation caused by him opening his mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

People really do manage to blow the slightest thing up into "news" these days, don't they?

 

I think all NZ papers should be prosecuted under Trades Description laws for not referring to themselves as "Gossip and Inane Sh*t Papers" rather than "Newspapers"!

 

 

 

 

A common use for newspapers is weedmat


 
 
 
 


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911675 1-Dec-2017 13:15
Send private message

 

People really do manage to blow the slightest thing up into "news" these days, don't they?

 

 

I am probably old school in this regard and find people getting offended over things mostly pretty stupid, but this is pretty blatant. If he'd said that about my wife, I might have smacked his mouth shut right then and there. 

 

Probably breaches my threshold of common decency.

 

 


18347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1911681 1-Dec-2017 13:25
Send private message

Supposedly he said "I said that the then Susan Devoy's sporting skill was of such a level that she could beat the best in the world even when she wasn't fit."

 

Who knows. Both of them don't like each other so either she is correct, or she is playing tit for tat now that he is in office, who knows


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911682 1-Dec-2017 13:29
Send private message

tdgeek:

 

Supposedly he said "I said that the then Susan Devoy's sporting skill was of such a level that she could beat the best in the world even when she wasn't fit."

 

Who knows. Both of them don't like each other so either she is correct, or she is playing tit for tat now that he is in office, who knows

 

 

My understanding is that he said that SD was looking a little "round" and as a result should walk the length of NZ to lose a few KG. 

 

I am not a SD Fan now (though I was when she was a squash player and I am a squash player largely due to her), but if I was taking someones word for what was said, it would be SD over WP, every day of the week, twice on weekends. 

 

 


306 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1911684 1-Dec-2017 13:32
Send private message

Something great to see

 

Our PM's comments about Ed Sherwan Good to see a bit of humour reminds me a bit of David Lange.  


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911687 1-Dec-2017 13:35
Send private message

gulfa:

 

Something great to see

 

Our PM's comments about Ed Sherwan Good to see a bit of humour reminds me a bit of David Lange.  

 

 

LOL perception is an interesting thing, I thought she was trying too hard to be hip and edgy. 

 

It's kinda interesting she had plenty to say about Thiel being given citizenship but is unlikely to oppose ES. I have no issue with either, but if you have an issue with one, then should have issue with both. 

 

 


18347 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1911689 1-Dec-2017 13:37
Send private message

networkn:

 

tdgeek:

 

Supposedly he said "I said that the then Susan Devoy's sporting skill was of such a level that she could beat the best in the world even when she wasn't fit."

 

Who knows. Both of them don't like each other so either she is correct, or she is playing tit for tat now that he is in office, who knows

 

 

My understanding is that he said that SD was looking a little "round" and as a result should walk the length of NZ to lose a few KG. 

 

I am not a SD Fan now (though I was when she was a squash player and I am a squash player largely due to her), but if I was taking someones word for what was said, it would be SD over WP, every day of the week, twice on weekends. 

 

 

 

 

So would I, although its a bit of a stretch for an MP to say things like that. While politicans talk tough, they dont get that personal in NZ. What I quoted what his response today from her assertion


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911696 1-Dec-2017 13:56
Send private message

tdgeek:

 

networkn:

 

tdgeek:

 

Supposedly he said "I said that the then Susan Devoy's sporting skill was of such a level that she could beat the best in the world even when she wasn't fit."

 

Who knows. Both of them don't like each other so either she is correct, or she is playing tit for tat now that he is in office, who knows

 

 

My understanding is that he said that SD was looking a little "round" and as a result should walk the length of NZ to lose a few KG. 

 

I am not a SD Fan now (though I was when she was a squash player and I am a squash player largely due to her), but if I was taking someones word for what was said, it would be SD over WP, every day of the week, twice on weekends. 

 

 

 

 

So would I, although its a bit of a stretch for an MP to say things like that. While politicans talk tough, they dont get that personal in NZ. What I quoted what his response today from her assertion

 

 

Yes, that is a significant difference between accounts. There will be a third party confirm that attended, almost certainly. That will clear it up. 

 

IF she is right, and he has come out on national TV and lied outright, he should resign. IF she has, she should. 

 

 


21439 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1911701 1-Dec-2017 14:16
Send private message

Just watch WP's statements. Everytime they get close to the facts he accuses the press on something unrelated. 

 

"Why do you think Susan Devoy wasn't fit" 

 

"It was blatantly obvious she wasn't" 

 

"What do you mean by that? How was it obvious?"

 

"Blah blah blah nothing, avoid the question, make an accusation". 

 

I think they are both wrong in this sequence of events, but I could easily see him having made a comment that was effectively what she claims it was. 

 

 


1 | ... | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | ... | 268
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48


CarbonClick launches into Digital Marketplaces
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:42


Kordia offers Microsoft Azure Peering Service
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:41


Spark 5G live on Auckland Harbour for Emirates Team New Zealand
Posted 4-Nov-2019 17:30


BNZ and Vodafone partner to boost NZ Tech for SME
Posted 31-Oct-2019 17:14


Nokia 7.2 available in New Zealand
Posted 31-Oct-2019 16:24


2talk launches Microsoft Teams Direct Routing product
Posted 29-Oct-2019 10:35


New Breast Cancer Foundation app puts power in Kiwi women's hands
Posted 25-Oct-2019 16:13


OPPO Reno2 Series lands, alongside hybrid noise-cancelling Wireless Headphones
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:32


Waikato Data Scientists awarded $13 million from the Government
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:27


D-Link launches Wave 2 Unified Access Points
Posted 24-Oct-2019 15:07



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.