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  Reply # 2041229 20-Jun-2018 16:38
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/canadas-senate-votes-to-legalize-marijuana/2018/06/19/ab346ea7-807a-4fd4-b08d-0757c9d8f76c_story.html
Canada’s Senate votes to legalize marijuana
by Amanda Coletta June 19 at 11:22 PM


TORONTO — Canada’s Senate voted on Tuesday to pass the federal government’s historic bill legalizing the recreational use of marijuana, clearing the way for the country to become the first advanced industrialized nation to legalize the drug nationwide and fulfilling a major campaign promise of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

The Senate passed Bill C-45 by a vote of 52 to 29 with two abstentions, lifting a prohibition on the recreational use of marijuana that has been in place since 1923. The law will not come into effect until it receives royal assent — a final ceremonial stage of the legislative process — and the government sets a date for legalization.

Trudeau hoped to make cannabis legal by July 1 — in time for Canada Day — but Canada’s provinces and territories have said that they need an eight- to 12-week-long buffer period to make final preparations before they are able to sell cannabis to consumers. Bill Blair, an architect of the legislation and the parliamentary secretary to Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, told Canada’s CTV News this week that he expects that date to be in September.

Trudeau heralded the vote in a tweet, stating, “It’s been too easy for our kids to get marijuana — and for criminals to reap the profits. Today, we change that.”

Wilson-Raybould, who sponsored the legislation, tweeted that the Senate vote marked “an historic milestone for progressive policy in Canada.”

The law makes Canada the second country after Uruguay to have a nationwide, legal market for marijuana.

It grants the federal government the power to license and regulate a restricted group of cannabis growers, but leaves it largely up to the discretion of Canada’s 10 provinces and three territories to decide how to sell and distribute the drug. Some, like Ontario, will sell it at a small number of state-run stores operated by the provincial alcohol monopoly. Others, like Newfoundland and Labrador, will sell it to consumers at select grocery stores.

The legislation sets the minimum age for purchase at 18 and allows for the personal possession of up to 30 grams for dried cannabis, with rules on edibles to come later. Those caught selling marijuana to a minor could face stiff penalties of up to 14 years in jail.

Like tobacco, producers trying to market their product face strict advertising rules. Cannabis can only be sold in plain packaging that is a single, uniform color and free of flashy graphics or images.

Canadians spent more than 5.7 billion Canadian dollars on marijuana in 2017, with the majority of it for recreational use, according to a Statistics Canada report released in January. That makes cannabis a multibillion-dollar industry that is larger than the tobacco industry and as large as the beer industry.

Bill Morneau, Canada’s finance minister, said that he expects the government to rake in nearly 300 million Canadian dollars from the taxes on legalized cannabis. The provincial and federal governments will split the excise tax revenue 75-25 for the first two years after legalization.

One of Trudeau’s first major policy pledges as leader of the Liberal Party was to legalize marijuana, a promise that become a central pillar of his party’s 2015 federal election campaign. When his government introduced Bill C-45 in April 2017, its backers framed it as an effort to discourage consumption among youth, while also crushing the illegal market.

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  Reply # 2041289 20-Jun-2018 18:25
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Nice flag, should have seen that one coming 😊

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2041291 20-Jun-2018 18:29
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Excellent flag. I hope they change it.

 

 





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  Reply # 2041302 20-Jun-2018 19:13
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I still doubt it will happen here. Sadly.







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  Reply # 2043285 24-Jun-2018 20:25
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Reefer Madness Reaches Canada

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  Reply # 2043302 24-Jun-2018 21:27
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Slightly off topic but I wonder how many people in the Nelson region try to grow tobacco for personal use? I believe this is completely legal if it is not sold to another person.


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  Reply # 2043306 24-Jun-2018 21:48
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I think pot is a lot easier.

 

 





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  Reply # 2043457 25-Jun-2018 11:01
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A friend of mine grew his own tobacco - many decades ago.  Can confirm that it was absolutely disgusting - rather than just killing you slowly over a period of many years, the effect of this stuff seemed like it was designed for instant death.

 

I believe that was probably mainly due to poor control of drying process, they also add humectants and other chemicals to tobacco to help keep moisture content up, to control burn rate, and to add flavour.  I believe there actually is a black market in "home-grown" tobacco, but I think to produce an acceptable product some skill would be needed.


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  Reply # 2043462 25-Jun-2018 11:19
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Very easy to grow tobacco. But if not cured properly, the leaves are brittle and turn to dust when you try to crush them. Also quite harsh on the throat. However, when in Thailand, I had the opportunity to smoke an old lady's cigars from home grown tobacco and till date are the best of any tobacco product I have sampled. Very very smooth and had an earthly flavour. Was tobacco rolled in banana leaves.


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  Reply # 2063305 27-Jul-2018 08:34
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So people are dropping like flies from toxic synthetic cannabis. The real stuff should have been legalised years ago. The sheer bloody-mindedness of  dinosaur politicians on this issue verges on the criminal. The stupid, hysterical fear that legal pot will somehow make things worse (they couldn't be) is like some kind of constipation of the brain. Even from comments regarding industrial hemp or medical marijuana there seems to be some kind of irrational terror that people might get high from it. So what if they do? Does anyone actually stop to think about this issue? New Zealand is still following the American Reefer Madness playbook abandoned years ago by the Americans themselves, at least the ones whose brains aren't addled by alcohol and prescription opiates. It really is time to end this nonsense, grow up, and move on to things that actually matter!

 

 





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  Reply # 2063340 27-Jul-2018 09:49
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article: "It's very easy to get these agents from overseas in a liquid form. The cannabis market itself appears to be reasonably difficult and expensive at the moment and so the drug dealers are dealing in this much cheaper, easier to make and provide product."

It appears to me that meth has vastly reduced the availability of natural cannabis in NZ. I vastly preferred the 'stoned' atmosphere NZ had on the traditional Friday/Saturday nights out compared to the 'cranked' atmosphere it has now.

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  Reply # 2063662 27-Jul-2018 14:08
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mrfte:

 

Very easy to grow tobacco. But if not cured properly, the leaves are brittle and turn to dust when you try to crush them. Also quite harsh on the throat. However, when in Thailand, I had the opportunity to smoke an old lady's cigars from home grown tobacco and till date are the best of any tobacco product I have sampled. Very very smooth and had an earthly flavour. Was tobacco rolled in banana leaves.

 

 

 

 

I'm planning a photography trip to Cuba where I expect to see a lot of tobacco-related subjects!








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  Reply # 2064608 29-Jul-2018 15:40
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3 Arguments Why Marijuana Should Stay Illegal Reviewed


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  Reply # 2064618 29-Jul-2018 16:15
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Very good. Reasonable and well-balanced. My only comment would be that they don't make sufficient distinction between different types of marijuana. They seem to imply that all of it is super-potent these days. It is still possible to find earlier types and other grades in-between, at least in countries that don't have the kind of stupid blind legal sanctions that we do. The beer/hard stuff comparison is good. There is still plenty of beer-style grass to be had. You don't have to get zonked out of your head.

 

 

 

 





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