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  # 2184871 21-Feb-2019 14:43
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Another reason why I don't trust stats and don't like the census.





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  # 2214866 11-Apr-2019 10:06
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freitasm: Sixty people to be prosecuted for failing to fill census.


From the link,

Yesterday it was revealed that one in seven Kiwis had failed to complete the national population assessment - but only 60 will face legal action.

Wonder if next one will be online? Looks like a bit of a disaster.

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  # 2214875 11-Apr-2019 10:21
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I have heard from an insider that the 60 people being prosecuted for failing to fill out forms, is just the start. Stats NZ are determined to set an example to people on this.

 

The data has incredibly valuable uses from setting electoral boundaries to setting health funding. 


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  # 2214918 11-Apr-2019 11:29
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Bluntj:

 

I have heard from an insider that the 60 people being prosecuted for failing to fill out forms, is just the start. Stats NZ are determined to set an example to people on this.

 

The data has incredibly valuable uses from setting electoral boundaries to setting health funding. 

 

 

Exactly. Its not easy planning ahead at home, or in your business venture, what about a country? Imagine if when you are planning ahead home improvements, overseas trip, retirement planning, or your business growth, production needs over the next 2 years , but you don't have any information available to do any of that? Your option is to guess, or wait.

 

The other way is to cease running a census, and pass a law that gives Govt an unfettered right to access all and any information in any system about any individual. That way they can get the census data they need to run this country. Or ask the people to fill in a simple form every 4 years, to help the Govts run the country


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  # 2215256 11-Apr-2019 20:47
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Biggest problem was trying to post out the access codes. Due to problems with the NZ post and council databases of addresses.

They should have still had field staff visiting each property. Give them cards to hand out with an access code for the online census, or hand out paper forms for those that prefer that method. Provide the field staff with a tablet that records the GPS coordinates of each property that they visit.

As a vitally important part of the field staffs work, is identifying properties and people who are not listed on any other databases.

And I thought that the whole point of the census was to get an accurate and definitive record of population and other data that they collect. Basing the collection of that data on other databases that are not correct. Defeats the whole point of having the census.

There are probably lots of people who dodged the census due to never being sent any access codes. And since Stats NZ didnt know to send them, they also wouldn't know that those people didnt complete the census.





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  # 2215495 12-Apr-2019 08:55
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Aredwood: Biggest problem was trying to post out the access codes. Due to problems with the NZ post and council databases of addresses.

They should have still had field staff visiting each property. Give them cards to hand out with an access code for the online census, or hand out paper forms for those that prefer that method. Provide the field staff with a tablet that records the GPS coordinates of each property that they visit.

As a vitally important part of the field staffs work, is identifying properties and people who are not listed on any other databases.

And I thought that the whole point of the census was to get an accurate and definitive record of population and other data that they collect. Basing the collection of that data on other databases that are not correct. Defeats the whole point of having the census.

There are probably lots of people who dodged the census due to never being sent any access codes. And since Stats NZ didnt know to send them, they also wouldn't know that those people didnt complete the census.

 

The whole fiasco seems to be more incompetence on officials rather than the government of the day. I am quite sure that the Minister in Charge would have sought assurances that the census would be successful with this new method. There really needs to be an inquiry on this as the effects are quite huge.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2215534 12-Apr-2019 09:29
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That is what happened to us, our street is outside the NZ Post delivery area and no one in our street received the code. I had to chase up Stats NZ to get one. Not many people in our situation did, they assumed Stats would send a field worker out to each house, they didn't. There were entire settlements in South Westland with poor internet connectivity and no direct postal services (they collect mail when they go to a nearby town with the mail centre). They never received anything for the census.


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