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#2716987 2-Jun-2021 07:51

Handle9:

The amusing thing about the comments about Mallard is that he is the first speaker to try and do something about the abuse of staffers that is well know and routine.

LOL. If he wanted to do that, he would have resigned long ago. He is well known for his bully tactics and bad behaviour.

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#2716991 2-Jun-2021 08:03

networkn:

Handle9:

The amusing thing about the comments about Mallard is that he is the first speaker to try and do something about the abuse of staffers that is well know and routine.

LOL. If he wanted to do that, he would have resigned long ago. He is well known for his bully tactics and bad behaviour.

More whataboutism.

Van Morrison has a fiery temper apparently. That's no excuse Nick Smith's behaviour either.

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#2717027 2-Jun-2021 08:46

Pointing out that Trevor Mallard's own slate is not spotless (the Tau Henare punch, and arguably the sexual assault allegation - but nothing else springs to mind?) does not in any way absolve Nick Smith or whoever the other (unknown to me) MP currently rumoured to have a similar issue. It also doesn't change the fact that Mallard does seem to be doing something about these issues where others have not.

It's not the gotcha you think it is, and in any case people are not required to be perfect themselves in order to be able to point out problems (but it would make the high ground easier to take).

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#2717135 2-Jun-2021 11:16

I kinda feel like things are going from bad to worse with these guys:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300106745/election-2020-national-sticking-by-upper-harbour-candidate-jake-bezzant--following-thorough-investigation-of-allegation-about-his-business-record

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/06/national-party-candidate-jake-bezzant-resigns-as-ex-girlfriend-alleges-inappropriate-behaviour.html

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#2717136 2-Jun-2021 11:19

quickymart:

I kinda feel like things are going from bad to worse with these guys:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300106745/election-2020-national-sticking-by-upper-harbour-candidate-jake-bezzant--following-thorough-investigation-of-allegation-about-his-business-record

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/06/national-party-candidate-jake-bezzant-resigns-as-ex-girlfriend-alleges-inappropriate-behaviour.html

Good, that means they are out nice and early and the situation is promptly dealt with.

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#2717248 2-Jun-2021 13:26

So far I've seen no details of the Nick Smith thing in the media. Only 'verbal altercation'. Maybe the leaker whoever that might be has decided not to release it after Smith's resignation.

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#2717249 2-Jun-2021 13:33

I always thought Smith was one of National's relatively sensible people for the most part. Finding out he was allegedly known for this kind of thing in addition to this incident is a bit of a surprise.

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#2717305 2-Jun-2021 14:10

networkn:

Handle9:

The amusing thing about the comments about Mallard is that he is the first speaker to try and do something about the abuse of staffers that is well know and routine.

LOL. If he wanted to do that, he would have resigned long ago. He is well known for his bully tactics and bad behaviour.

Go and read about the Francis report without wearing an eye patch. You might learn something.

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#2717317 2-Jun-2021 14:34

Now there are sexual allegations about the National candidate for upper harbour.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300322828/former-national-candidate-jake-bezzant-leaves-party-as-serious-allegations-emerge

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#2717367 2-Jun-2021 16:36

Handle9: Now there are sexual allegations about the National candidate for upper harbour.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300322828/former-national-candidate-jake-bezzant-leaves-party-as-serious-allegations-emerge

Flintoft alleges that Bezzant then taunted her about the matter not progressing to the courts.

That's some spectacular level of career death-wish / poor judgement.

Has a whiff of "don't you know who I am" arrogance to it. Politics (not just National party) really does seem to attract some of the worst people. More attention to weeding the garden before the inevitable happens seems to be required.

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#2717369 2-Jun-2021 16:38

Fred99:

Has a whiff of "don't you know who I am" arrogance to it. Politics (not just National party) really does seem to attract some of the worst people. More attention to weeding the garden before the inevitable happens seems to be required.

He's a tech bro so it almost goes with the territory.

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#2717403 2-Jun-2021 19:21

Handle9:

Fred99:

Has a whiff of "don't you know who I am" arrogance to it. Politics (not just National party) really does seem to attract some of the worst people. More attention to weeding the garden before the inevitable happens seems to be required.

He's a tech bro so it almost goes with the territory.

Sad - but true. The worst part about it (IMO) is that many of them have both hands out for public funding available for start-ups, governance for distribution of those funds often by people who have a BCom from 1987, send emails with a signature "Sent from my iPhone" as their STEM qualification, but of course with friends or family in "high places".