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  #2916591 20-May-2022 18:56
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I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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  #2916592 20-May-2022 19:03
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gzt: I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

Well, its happening now, as in pushing them back. 10 days in it was reported everywhere that UKR is showing a great effort but they will lose badly. Exceeded al l expectations by a country mile and still getting better. 


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  #2916607 20-May-2022 20:37
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tdgeek, 
Russia are stuck in a cycle of robbing Ivan to pay Vladimir.
So they take troops from one area, maybe leave some ill equipped DPR behind and Ukraine start rolling them up.
Apparently now hitting tougher nuts as Russia stole units from stalled Izium to plug that.
This is more Northward around Kharkiv

 

This account of Izium seems so bad it can't possibly be true ? Way understrength units no armor.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/19/2099028/-Ukraine-Update-A-Russian-volunteer-s-story-lays-waste-to-the-myth-of-the-Russian-BTG

 

Everything else including Wagner Group seems to be going through Popasna in South East. 
'Artillery is God' goes a Russian saying, they have enough old dumb artillery shells and rockets for several wars.
Kadyrovites seem to be rushing there for victory TikToks. The 'Terminator' has been seen.

 

Unfortunately this is causing huge problems for Ukraine as its generated some momentum in rear of Severodonetsk
Next few days will be telling, hope traditional problems of Russia running out of steam continue.

 

Hopefully Ukraine withdrawals are orderly and Russian thrust exhausts itself.


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  #2916608 20-May-2022 20:59
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This account of Izium seems so bad it can't possibly be true ? Way understrength units no armor.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/19/2099028/-Ukraine-Update-A-Russian-volunteer-s-story-lays-waste-to-the-myth-of-the-Russian-BTG

 

 

Daily Kos is a blog, not a news source, so take anything it says with a large grain of salt. It could be totally legit or it could be written by a Ukrainian to make the situation of the Russians look even worse than it actually is.

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  #2916609 20-May-2022 21:20
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tdgeek:

 

gzt: I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

Well, its happening now, as in pushing them back. 10 days in it was reported everywhere that UKR is showing a great effort but they will lose badly. Exceeded al l expectations by a country mile and still getting better. 

 

 

I'm afraid not.

 

Eastern Ukraine terrain is mostly flat open ground  - tank country, ideal for Russian armour. 

 

Ukraine has less than 100 tanks.

 

 

 


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  #2916611 20-May-2022 21:30
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K8Toledo:

Eastern Ukraine terrain is mostly flat open ground - tank country, ideal for Russian armour.

 

 

And more than ideal for ATGMs to hit large, slow-moving targets crossing the flat, open ground.

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  #2916874 21-May-2022 16:54
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Well the Ukraine doesn't have to worry about a Russian aircraft carrier.

From Wiki: "The aircraft carrier was built within Ukrainian in 1985, becoming fully operational in the Russian Navy in 1995....

She was intended to be the lead ship of two-ships. However, her sister ship was still incomplete when the Soviet Union disbanded in 1991.The second hull was eventually sold by Ukraine to China...

In November 2018, it was damaged by a falling 70-ton crane from the floating dry dock and a fire that killed two during the refit. The dry dock, which sank due to a power outage while holding Admiral Kuznetsov, was vital to repairing the carrier, which is not expected to re-enter service until 2022.

The shipbuilder the vessel was expected to begin post-repair sea trials in mid-2023 and rejoin the fleet later that year, although this may have been pushed back a year or more due to delays.
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How Russia Stole and Ruined its Only Aircraft Carrier


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  #2916992 21-May-2022 23:21
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neb:
K8Toledo:

 

Eastern Ukraine terrain is mostly flat open ground - tank country, ideal for Russian armour.

 

And more than ideal for ATGMs to hit large, slow-moving targets crossing the flat, open ground.

 

Defensive yes, not offensive. Ukrainian Army won't be encircling Russian tanks with ATGM's.

 

They're hitting Russian armour with Howitzers mainly, afaik.


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  #2917029 22-May-2022 10:56
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The NY Times - The Russian Orthodox Leader at the Core of Putin’s Ambitions

 

21 May 2022

 


As Russia’s invasion of Ukraine unfolded, Patriarch Kirill I, the leader of the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church, had an awkward Zoom meeting with Pope Francis.

 

The two religious leaders had previously worked together to bridge a 1,000-year-old schism between the Christian churches of the East and West. But the meeting, in March, found them on opposing sides of a chasm.

 

Kirill spent 20 minutes reading prepared remarks, echoing the arguments of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that the war in Ukraine was necessary to purge Nazis and oppose NATO expansion.

 

Francis was evidently flummoxed. “Brother, we are not clerics of the state,” the pontiff told Kirill, he later recounted to the Corriere della Sera newspaper, adding that “the patriarch cannot transform himself into Putin’s altar boy.”

 

Today, Kirill stands apart not merely from Francis, but from much of the world.

 

The leader of about 100 million faithful, Kirill, 75, has staked the fortunes of his branch of Orthodox Christianity on a close and mutually beneficial alliance with Mr. Putin, offering him spiritual cover while his church - and possibly he himself - receives vast resources in return from the Kremlin, allowing him to extend his influence in the Orthodox world. ...

 

Kirill’s role is so important that European officials have included him on a list of individuals they plan to target in an upcoming - and still in flux - round of sanctions against Russia ...

 





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  #2917062 22-May-2022 13:04
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Yeh Right... Krill. 

 

You can read more here with Google Translate about the KGB records of ROC, in the 'short' time of openness.
https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2014/01/24/58082-svyaschennik-gleb-yakunin-patriarh-kirill-funktsiyu-kgb-vzyal-kak-by-na-sebya

 

There is this article based on a book by an ex head of Romanian secret Service, and other info on its role in anti Ukraine propaganda.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/History/F_009_Kyrill_2.html

 

"" WCC is World Council of Churches.
“A 1989 KGB document boasts: ‘Now the agenda of the WCC is also our agenda.’ More recently, Metropolitan Kirill (agent Mikhaylov), who had been an influential representative to the World Council of Churches since 1971 and after 1975 a member of the WCC Central Committee, was in 2009 elected patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.” (Desinformation, Portuguese ed., Vide Editorial, 2015, p. 31; English ed., WND Books, 2013, p. 3)

 

Pacepa, the ex-head of Romanian Intelligence, reports how the “Orthodox Church” forcefully incorporated the Catholic Ukrainian Church:
""

 

Kirill, the Patriarch in league with Putin
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/kirill-the-patriarch-in-league-with-putin

 

Sorry paywalled, but headline is telling.

 

Giant new Russian cathedral glorifies Putin and Stalin in mosaic 
Crimea annexation also exalted in Moscow church due to open on anniversary of 1945 victory
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/giant-new-russian-cathedral-glorifies-putin-stalin-mosaics

 

While communists were staunchly anti religion.
Lenin laconically set the number of Orthodox priests to be executed: “The more, the better."  

 

Stalin allowed Russian Orthodox Church to exist 'with limits' as servant of the state.
In WW2's desperate times Stalin saw that assimilation by spy agencies was better strategy to promote Russian nationalism.
So suppressed, and troublesome eliminated, but not eradicated, as it was uniquely Russian.


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  #2917457 23-May-2022 07:58
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K8Toledo:

 

 

 

Ukraine has less than 100 tanks.

 

 

 

 

Pretty sure they have more tanks now than they started the war with. According to Oryx, they've captured over 240 Russian tanks while only losing 176.





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  #2917458 23-May-2022 08:01
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SaltyNZ:

 

K8Toledo:

 

Ukraine has less than 100 tanks.

 

 

Pretty sure they have more tanks now than they started the war with. According to Oryx, they've captured over 240 Russian tanks while only losing 176.

 

 

With the advantage the majority of its soldiers can read Russian, so no problems operating any machinery "acquired" during this campaign.





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  #2917512 23-May-2022 10:40
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freitasm:

 

With the advantage the majority of its soldiers can read Russian, so no problems operating any machinery "acquired" during this campaign.

 

 

 

 

And it's mostly even the same equipment, so they don't need any training, just jump in and drive it away.





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