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  #3256641 5-Jul-2024 14:08
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Lower Turnout indications from 6 seats, it will be interesting to see if this becomes a trend overall.
Given Labour sweep it could indicate loyal Tory voters just could not vote for their party, but not for anyone else either? 

 

Though it was reported that a survey of voters who did not vote in the Council elections.
The first with Photo Id requirements.
4% of those did not vote due to the Photo ID requirement.
Along with Boris Johnson who does not need to carry ID, until he does

 

Debrexit is not something our farmers would look forward to, goodbye trade deal.
I guess our Farmers will have to deal with fallout over our trade agreement if UK does go back.

 

EU seems to want UK back in some form over time. 
Even if its not full union, softening the edges.
Outside of French who probably enjoy not competing with UK for influence,
 and then there are their farmers.
https://www.dw.com/en/eu-wants-to-undo-brexit-a-little-bit-for-people-18-to-30/a-68864057

 

 




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  #3256671 5-Jul-2024 16:20
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Brexit isn't on the table for any of the parties. There won't be any big changes, it's far to divisive for any party to have any interest in reopening the issue.

 

Similarly there won't be any movement on proportional representation, the parliamentary parties have zero interest. The only way it will happen is if a coalition is required and one of the minor parties extract it as a concession.

 

 


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  #3256672 5-Jul-2024 16:22
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SJB:

 

Lowest turnout since 2005 predicted. That was the year Blair won his third term against an almost anonymous Tory leader Michael Howard.

 

Shows that a lot of potential voters don't want any of the parties.

 

 

Probably that but also it's clearly been a fait accompli for some time. A ton of voters wouldn't have bothered to vote as they viewed their vote as not mattering.




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  #3256676 5-Jul-2024 16:33
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wellygary:

 

Starmer deserves to win,

 

He's spent the last 4 years purging the party of the crazy Corbynite that were electoral poison,

 

(Their presenc  pretty much ensured the re-election of the Tories and their parade of wacko leaders)

 

Labour under him is a very centrish party, and it is refreshing to see such a political party get elected in the current global situation

 

 

I totally agree. It appears the Torys will look at how Labour won by moving to the centre and go in the opposite direction for a while. The infighting should be quite amusing.


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  #3256677 5-Jul-2024 16:34
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SJB:

 

If you think the Tories did badly take a look at the SNP. They had 43 seats and they are predicted to get 10.

 

 

Having a sh1tshow for your party leadership will do that.


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  #3256727 5-Jul-2024 16:50
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Interestingly the Labour vote is about the same as last time in England, down in Wales and only increased in Scotland.

 

Maybe that indicates the Tory vote from last time splintered or was a no show.


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  #3256731 5-Jul-2024 16:54
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wellygary:

 

Starmer deserves to win,

 

He's spent the last 4 years purging the party of the crazy Corbynite that were electoral poison,

 

(Their presenc  pretty much ensured the re-election of the Tories and their parade of wacko leaders)

 

Labour under him is a very centrish party, and it is refreshing to see such a political party get elected in the current global situation

 

 

 

 

 

 

The crackpot side of the party is still there in reduced form but with such a huge majority Starmer can safely ignore them.

 

The unions will give him a harder time than his ultra left MP's. With such a majority they will expect a real change in employment law favouring them and much larger pay packets.


 
 
 
 

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  #3256732 5-Jul-2024 16:54
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SJB:

 

Interestingly the Labour vote is about the same as last time in England, down in Wales and only increased in Scotland.

 

Maybe that indicates the Tory vote from last time splintered or was a no show.

 

 

Reform has had an impact. Whether that's a protest vote or they really have underling support time will only tell.


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  #3256733 5-Jul-2024 16:55
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Vote Count Binface for Bindependence Day! 4 July 2024


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  #3256748 5-Jul-2024 18:12
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Liz Truss loses her seat. I wonder how the lettuce is doing?

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  #3256774 5-Jul-2024 19:28
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Handle9: Liz Truss loses her seat. I wonder how the lettuce is doing?

 

Thank god. Did her nutjob Chancellor go the same way?


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  #3256775 5-Jul-2024 19:30
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Handle9: Liz Truss loses her seat. I wonder how the lettuce is doing?

 

Thank god. Did her nutjob Chancellor go the same way?

 

 

Kwarteng didn't seek re-election


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  #3256797 5-Jul-2024 23:36
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Sunak has resigned as Tory leader. Let the infighting continue!


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The results are a good example of how FPP elections don't always represent the will of the voters.

 

Labour got 34% of the vote but 63% of the seats. Tories plus Reform actually got more votes than Labour but only have a 1/3 of Labours seats. Reform in particular got 14% of the vote but only 1% of the seats.

 

The gap between votes and seats for the winners is the largest since 1922 and with a low turnout it means Labour was elected by only around 20% of the population. Hardly a ringing endorsement but I doubt anybody will mention that. 


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  #3256831 6-Jul-2024 11:34
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SJB:

 

Hardly a ringing endorsement but I doubt anybody will mention that. 

 

 

 

 

They were talking about it on The Bugle this morning...





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