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Gialandon

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  #2705537 10-May-2021 15:14
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Batman:

 

can you run HDMI to 4KTV and optical to receiver.

 

unless you have a 10k + speaker set up, purpose built room with acoustic treatment and perfect hearing you are not going to notice lack of lossless audio

 

 

This post should come with a trigger warning :)

 

I can notice differences (sometimes). Generally, find the bass more punchy and audio generally more dynamic, you can hear little details like when a guitar is picked, the initial sound hits more clearly and the decay is more clear. That said, for music listening I tend to use headphones these days.

 

So much depends on having well produced material. 


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  #2705553 10-May-2021 15:19
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Gialandon:

 

the initial sound hits more clearly and the decay is more clear. 

 

 

i made that post based on your receiver being an rxv473. yes i judged.

 

what speakers and sub do you use?





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  #2705574 10-May-2021 16:16
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ARIKIP:

 

I'd be interested to hear how you get on. My Onkyo SR608 has ARC but I've yet to get audio working. The amp and TV both think  ARC is active, but I get no sound. HDMI-CEC control works.

 

 

 

 

I've used ARC previously with my plasma Samsung PS64E8000 and it worked fine with my Yamaha RX-V473. But I do know it can be hit and miss. TV arrives this weekend, will let you know.




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  #2705580 10-May-2021 16:28
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Batman:

 

i made that post based on your receiver being an rxv473. yes i judged.

 

what speakers and sub do you use?

 

 

 

 

At the moment I have a  yamaha setup NS333 for the rears and NS777 fronts, NSC444 centre and YST-RSW300 sub - so s 5.1 setup for now.


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  #2706213 11-May-2021 18:59
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Get a HDMI splitter! I'm using this one to address the same problem.


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  #2706217 11-May-2021 19:16
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I got a similar one with a scaler in it to try to be able to game in 4k but have by old elgato capture at 1080p. Limited sucess, doesn't seem to like audio beyond stereo and sometimes it decides that it only wants to do 1080 to both outputs. Your reciever may not want to take audio on the HDMI in without a screen on the output and active (my one I got for the garage would stop playing audio if I took the TV to another input or else turned it off)

 

 





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  #2706225 11-May-2021 19:47
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PANiCnz:

Get a HDMI splitter! I'm using this one to address the same problem.



This looks like it would work. The inbuilt downscaler solves a few problems.

Have you tried it and did it handle hdr and hd audio?



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  #2706530 12-May-2021 12:39
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Gialandon:
PANiCnz:

Get a HDMI splitter! I'm using this one to address the same problem.



This looks like it would work. The inbuilt downscaler solves a few problems.

Have you tried it and did it handle hdr and hd audio?

Works fine, 4k60 HDR to the TV and DD+ and DTSHD to my AVR. It has a programmable firmware two so you can force the EDID. Do a Google on the device I linked to, plenty of reviews of people doing what you want with it.

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  #2706612 12-May-2021 15:42
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One thing to keep in mind is if you have multiple sources needing this fix, it would probably pay to invest in something like an HDMI switch to syndicate them before the splitter, else you will have to put up with changing the input when you want to switch devices. With only 2 devices though, YMMV.

 

Having 4 inputs setup (Xbox, Shield, UHD Blu-ray player, PC) for one-remote, one-button operation with my Harmony remote, I know I would get a little bit 🦀-y if I had to change inputs every time. Let alone what my SO would have to say about it.


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  #2708207 16-May-2021 16:46
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Got the new tv yesterday and have been experimenting with arc.

Since i have an older receiver i know i can't get the full functionality of the earc but was hoping to at least get 5.1 dolby surround.

Took a bit of playing around. Finally i connected the hdmi cable from the tv to the OUTPUT of the receiver and it started working. Odd but whatever.

So current setup is:
Connected the nvidia shield directly to the tv via hdmi 1.
Hdmi 2 on the tv to the receiver out for arc.

Now the weird thing:
When i play a movie through the shield i get dolby surround and full 5.1.
When I play something through the tv i only get stereo or no sound.

So for example i opened netflix on the shield and started playing jupiters Legacy, full 5.1 dolby surround, i can see on the receiver it stated dolby.
Open the netflix app on the tv and no sound, but as i move around the menu i hear clicking in stereo.

Not sure what is going on, there must be a setting in the netflix app or tv that may need to be changed. But i prefer the shield anyway. The netflix calibrated mode on the tv version of netflix seems to be too dark and washes the color out on normal hd shows.
On the shield version of netflix i can choose dolby vision, it doesn't have the Netflix calibrated mode as an option.

I also ended up ordering the Sharc, should arrive in a couple of days. I figured i will be using a few sources so rather than having a big splitter or multiple splitters, the Sharc seemed more of an elegant solution.

Will update once i have the Sharc connected.

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  #2708548 17-May-2021 18:30
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Sharc arrived today, which was very fast.

Updated the firmware to the latest version and connected everything up, relatively Pain free experience.

Good news is i get 5.1 audio from all sources now.
Bad news is its limited to DD+

Sharc has a blinking light indicating it is only connected via arc and not earc.

I've tried everything but just can't get hd audio working.

I tried connecting the shield to the avr directly and found it passes 4k but i loose hdr. HD audio works though.

So either ive missed some setting in the tv or the Sharc has a problem.

Going to email the Sharc guys and see if they have any tips.

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  #2708551 17-May-2021 18:43
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What is the TV @gialandon?

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  #2708556 17-May-2021 18:59
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ShinyChrome: What is the TV @gialandon?

 

 

 

Panasonic TH-65HZ1000Z:

 

What I've done so far is:

 

1. confirmed Earc is on

 

2. Changed HDMI audio from auto to bitstream

 

 

 

Also noticed sometimes the lights on the Sharc are solid and sometimes blinking indicating sometimes it is on Arc and sometimes eARC. 

 

HD audio source is Kodi running from the nvidia shield with audio set to passthrough. As previously stated, I connected it directly to the avr and got hd audio.

 

AVR is Yamaha RX-v473

 

 

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  #2708652 17-May-2021 20:01
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Hmmmm.... silly questions, but is the TV firmware up-to-date? Sharc plugged into HDMI2 and HDMI-CEC turned on on the TV?

Also, what HDMI cable are you using?

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  #2708722 17-May-2021 21:51
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ShinyChrome: Hmmmm.... silly questions, but is the TV firmware up-to-date? Sharc plugged into HDMI2 and HDMI-CEC turned on on the TV?

Also, what HDMI cable are you using?


Yes firmware is updatedand everything plugged in. Tv has viera link which must be CEC and that is on.

The Sharc came with a hdmi 2.1 cable which i have used to connect the Sharc to the earc hdmi port on the TV. The cable from the Sharc to the avr is an unknown i think it must be 1.4 or 2. Can't recall now. It can definetly carry hd audio and a 1080p signal but i might buy a newer cable.

I've sent an email to the next audio guys to see if hdmi cable could be an issue before i spend more money.

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