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  Reply # 1744941 20-Mar-2017 23:31
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I have ordered (but not received) the i7 7560U/16GB/512GB SSD/QHD 3200x1800 version of the Dell XPS 13. Got $450 off so it was a pretty reasonable price.

 

Reasons: full-size CF card reader, good port selection, the fact it's available now with new generation hardware, nice design, portable, high res screen.

 

I hope I can live with the keyboard compared to my first generation x1 carbon which is amazing. I also tested the HP Spectre x360 which had a very, very good keyboard. The keyboard, the noise (both fan and infamous coil whine) and heat are my main concerns with the XPS 13.

 

I checked out the Surface Book, was a bit underwhelmed by the design in person, and felt bad spending so much ($5k for the performance base version) and I don't need the tablet mode.

 

The new X1 Carbon has been showing as "ships in more than 4 weeks" on the Lenovo site for a while, and I read somewhere that the higher resolution screen version may not be available for several months so I ruled that out.

 

May have gone the HP route but I didn't think I needed the rotating hinge and it only has the FHD screen. I feel like the HP laptop lineup is pretty confusing/not marketed well/harder to get a configuration you want. It was also more expensive (it being the Elitebook x360 which I think is an Spectre x360 with a few minor differences??). If I have issues with the XPS13 this will probably be where I go.


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  Reply # 1744944 20-Mar-2017 23:36
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I hope you mean SD card




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  Reply # 1744966 21-Mar-2017 07:23
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Woops, meant compact flash card reader!

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  Reply # 1745000 21-Mar-2017 07:53
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darylblake:

 

Personally I would look at:

 

HP Elitebook series. Anything business series, with business warranties. 3/3/3. I would also get a decent docking solution. Stay away from USB3 or any type of USB dock. They work, but they are not ideal.

 

I hear MS Surface is good as well. They look flash, and have those casting HDMI cables which make them great for presentations. MS also are good at providing replacement machines if they go faulty as well. But get it from an authorised reseller so this applies, don't get a parallel imported one.

 

The difference between skylake and kaby lake is pretty much a joke. A 6th Gen Intel chip is on par with a 7th. The only difference is there is some usb-c support with kaby lake and the chips might be clocked 0.2Ghz higher, the architecture is still exactly the same, so dont get too strung up on it.

 

Get 16GB of ram. I got 8 on my macbook pro, its enough (just) but if you plan for the machine to last you 3-4 years then you want to get 16GB or more. Get a decent size SSD Too.

 

 

 

 

Surface has mini DisplayPort which can easily be converted into whatever you want


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  Reply # 1745002 21-Mar-2017 07:56
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blair003: Woops, meant compact flash card reader!

 

XPS 13 has a compact flash card reader?




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  Reply # 1745008 21-Mar-2017 08:06
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Yeah I meant SD card. As in, the full sized version my camera has. Not my camera 10 years ago...



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  Reply # 1752613 1-Apr-2017 12:52
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Got the XPS 13.

 

First impressions after a day having come from a first generation x1 carbon - very nice looking machine. Very compact, gorgeous screen, design is coherent, hinge on the screen functions well in that it manages to be easy enough to open but quite stiff when opened.

 

Keyboard is ok. Keys feel alright, they are a bit small but I don't feel like it could have been done a whole heap better given the small form factor. Typing is nowhere near as nice as on my X1 Carbon, but it was never going to be. One thing I feel could have been easily done better is having slightly bigger markers on the F and J homekeys. My hands don't automatically find their home position as easily, but perhaps it will change as I get used to it. I would say if I was a big guy or had "big" hands I probably wouldn't be able to use this machine comfortably.

 

I would probably prefer a laptop that was very slightly larger and heavier if the keyboard was better, but all in all I can probably live with the keyboard as my daily driver. I am not as accurate with it, but spell-correct is everywhere these days so I probably don't need to be. The feel of the palm rest is better than the carbon, really nice - luxurious even. I sometimes miss having separate physical buttons on the trackpad but I'm sure i'll get used to it in time. Gestures on the trackpad work quite nicely for the most part.

 

The charger is quite compact, although it takes a lot longer to charge than the carbon. It is a fair price to pay for the compactness though (I assume a higher wattage/faster charger would be a fair bit bigger). And to be fair the battery is probably close to 25% larger so it lasts a lot longer. All things consider, the charge time I can live with.

 

On the downside, the noise. Coil whine is definitely a thing on mine, and my first reaction was I don't know whether I will keep it or not. I am quite sensitive to high pitched noises. It was very noticeable when I first turned it on and set it up, although it is not as noticeable now - different types of loads cause it to make the sound and at idle it is fine. Perhaps if it's only when its loaded up I can live with it. It reminds me of the noise a CD/DVD player would make when seeking/loading, somewhat scratchy and high pitched.

 

When it kicks in under load, the fan is also a bit more noticeable but again, I can probably live with it if it's not happening all the time.

 

Heatwise (using on the lap) it's more spread out than my x1 carbon and perhaps slightly cooler, but not particularly comfortable to use on lap for long period without having it rest on something.

 

If I send it back I assume I won't be able to get an XPS 13 without the noise, so I would probably be looking at an x1 carbon when they are available.

 

Design wise I think I would be disappointed if I did that, so we will see how it goes and I will decide next week...


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  Reply # 1752796 1-Apr-2017 17:12
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You're allowed to send it back?


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  Reply # 1752818 1-Apr-2017 18:15
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You can return it within 15 days of arrival if your not happy, not sure if it's an actual refund or just credit towards another purchase


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  Reply # 1757470 6-Apr-2017 12:26
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I've been given my choice of laptop for work so given my previous experience with and elitebook folio 1040 (it was light and ROOOOBUST) I went with the elitebook x360. Comes with a 3 year warranty and a pretty handy set of specs - more than what I can see myself needing anyway... i5 7200u, 8GB RAM, 128GB hard drive. Didn't ask them to plum for 256gb drive because network nor 4g SIM because tethering.

 

Sounds lame but I'm stocked it is so slim and yet I can still get the docking port.

 

I'm sure the foldy backy screen will be good for 1:1 presos and also Peppa Pig :/

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1757546 6-Apr-2017 13:57
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joker97:

 

You're allowed to send it back?

 

 

 

 

Yeah, you can return faulty products by law in New Zealand (irrespective of Dells policy). This is pretty much half the reason to buy stuff from in NZ rather than importing.

 

The noises it is making are not normal noises you expect a laptop to make, it's not advertised as making such noises, and XPS13's (apparently) don't all make such noises, so it's a fault.


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  Reply # 1757574 6-Apr-2017 14:25
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Nimma:

 

I've been given my choice of laptop for work so given my previous experience with and elitebook folio 1040 (it was light and ROOOOBUST) I went with the elitebook x360. Comes with a 3 year warranty and a pretty handy set of specs - more than what I can see myself needing anyway... i5 7200u, 8GB RAM, 128GB hard drive. Didn't ask them to plum for 256gb drive because network nor 4g SIM because tethering.

 

Sounds lame but I'm stocked it is so slim and yet I can still get the docking port.

 

I'm sure the foldy backy screen will be good for 1:1 presos and also Peppa Pig :/

 

 

$ of elitebook?


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  Reply # 1757604 6-Apr-2017 14:59
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joker97:

Nimma:


I've been given my choice of laptop for work so given my previous experience with and elitebook folio 1040 (it was light and ROOOOBUST) I went with the elitebook x360. Comes with a 3 year warranty and a pretty handy set of specs - more than what I can see myself needing anyway... i5 7200u, 8GB RAM, 128GB hard drive. Didn't ask them to plum for 256gb drive because network nor 4g SIM because tethering.


Sounds lame but I'm stocked it is so slim and yet I can still get the docking port.


I'm sure the foldy backy screen will be good for 1:1 presos and also Peppa Pig :/



$ of elitebook?



Slightly over $2k excluding GST and dock

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  Reply # 1757626 6-Apr-2017 15:05
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where from?


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  Reply # 1757636 6-Apr-2017 15:08
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Mine came via our IT provider but actually slightly cheaper at PB Tech. Check out choice cheapies how to get slightly better pricing at PB.

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/NBKHNB3524687/HP-Elitebook-x360-1030-G2-Notebook-133-FHD-Touch-I

 

About $100 less if you only need Win10 Home


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