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#208168 30-Jan-2017 11:03
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I find gig a bit unnecessary - but I find the 20Mbit upload limits very restrictive.

 

Some other ISPs offer 200/100, 200/200. Any plans to do the same?


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  #1712667 30-Jan-2017 11:10
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200/200 and 1000/500 costs about the same wholesale, so not much point offering the first option.


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  #1712943 30-Jan-2017 18:24
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Bigpipe used to do 200/200. It was changed to 1000/500 for the same price per month.

 

While I agree that it'd be nice for more options to be available (from ISPs in general), most people only care about two things: download speed and price. The wholesale plans with higher upload cost more, which would mean new plans would need to be implemented. Unless there is a lot of demand, it's likely not worth the cost of updating billing systems, websites, back end infrastructure configs, support templates, etc to implement them.


 
 
 
 




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  #1712950 30-Jan-2017 18:52
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My main gripe is the jump from 20UP to 500+ is just crazy. I'd like a non restrictive upstream speed as an option without having to get gig.

 

20 is restrictive. I got better with VDSL.


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  #1713007 30-Jan-2017 21:58
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Without having to get gig, or without having to pay $129/mo? If Bigpipe (or ISP X, Y, Z) were still selling 200/200 at $129 per month, would you still be enquiring about this?

 

It just doesn't make sense (IMO) for an ISP to sell 200/200 or 200/100 now that 1000/500 is available. Have a look at these two pages, they list the Chorus wholesale UFB costs: 1 2


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  #1713008 30-Jan-2017 22:02
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Psilan:

 

20 is restrictive. I got better with VDSL.

 

 

 

 

at some point, chorus will be looking at cutting down on VDSL being a better option where UFB is available.

 

Sure it can do up to 100/50 in some cases, but Thats very rare.

 

 

 

I agree, a 100/50 or something would be nice, but as others have pointed out cost to performance ratio is simply isn't really worth adding the complexity. 





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  #1713009 30-Jan-2017 22:02
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I can sell you a Mikrotik router that will cap your broadband at 200/200Mbit? I think it is crazy now people are arguing the point that 1000/500Mbit is too quick (and it is). Guess NZ doesn't have third world broadband anymore...





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  #1713011 30-Jan-2017 22:07
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michaelmurfy: Guess NZ doesn't have third world broadband anymore...

 

 

I live in Auckland and am stuck on copper until 2019. While some people have awesome internet available, until the UFB rollout is complete in all major centres, it is my view that NZ internet still has a long way to go. :)


 
 
 
 


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  #1713026 30-Jan-2017 23:04
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Copper here is miles ahead of most of the US that can either get a single providers ADSL from the exchange (no cabinets there) or else over subscribed cable like wellington had for ages. I know of people on a 100/5 cable plan that barely get 30/peanuts most of the time.





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  #1713048 31-Jan-2017 03:13
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Lorenceo:

 

michaelmurfy: Guess NZ doesn't have third world broadband anymore...

 

 

I live in Auckland and am stuck on copper until 2019. While some people have awesome internet available, until the UFB rollout is complete in all major centres, it is my view that NZ internet still has a long way to go. :)

 

 

 

 

Might be your view, but it's not accurate :-) The Internet here is staggeringly good on the world stage.

 

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  #1713057 31-Jan-2017 07:36
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Oh for sure, on average things are better than many countries (looking a you, Australia). Just not everyone is lucky enough to have access to the tech that enables it yet. Until that's no longer the case, work is still needed, and the sooner it happens, the better.




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  #1713065 31-Jan-2017 08:08
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I always thought we were a world leader in broadband. Speeds are ridiculous for cities right now.

 

Wasn't aware of the wholesale rate. I guess that explains things.


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  #1713066 31-Jan-2017 08:10
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Psilan:

I always thought we were a world leader in broadband. Speeds are ridiculous for cities right now.


Wasn't aware of the wholesale rate. I guess that explains things.



clearly you have not used broadband in other countries and your statement has no merit

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Edit: Some NZ cities have completed big Fibre roll outs



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  #1713072 31-Jan-2017 08:23
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Linux:clearly you have not used broadband in other countries and your statement has no merit 

 

What a strange, assuming, arrogant sentence.


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  #1713073 31-Jan-2017 08:29
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Talkiet:

 

Lorenceo:

 

michaelmurfy: Guess NZ doesn't have third world broadband anymore...

 

 

I live in Auckland and am stuck on copper until 2019. While some people have awesome internet available, until the UFB rollout is complete in all major centres, it is my view that NZ internet still has a long way to go. :)

 

 

 

 

Might be your view, but it's not accurate :-) The Internet here is staggeringly good on the world stage.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

By 2024, definitely. Right now, there are people in the middle of our largest city that can't get more than 10Mbps on DSL. Some will have the option of fixed wireless but that doesn't have unlimited.


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  #1713597 31-Jan-2017 23:14
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Psilan:

 

I always thought we were a world leader in broadband. Speeds are ridiculous for cities right now.

 

Wasn't aware of the wholesale rate. I guess that explains things.

 

 

What city are you referring to? I live on the North Shore and have 100Mb fibre.


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