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# 242795 14-Nov-2018 14:54
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Hi there,

 

I'm working on a site with very slow VDSL upload speeds (download isn't the best either) - around 20Mbps down and less than 1Mbps up.

 

I've checked all the settings on the Vigor 2860 and it all looks good: 

 

Screenshot of settings is below - I changed 'Encapsulating Type' from VC MUX to LLC/SNAP as per the recommendations on the Snappernet datasheet, but there has been no improvement. VLAN Tagging is set to 10.

 

I've also included a shot of what I assume is the master filter installed onsite - the line is VDSL only, so that photo is of the line's point of entry into the premises. 

 

It's worth noting that the site is on the far limits of VDSL coverage but Spark were happy to provide it. Any suggestions on what we could do to improve the situation? 

 

Thanks in advance!

 

WAN Settings on Vigor 2860:

 

Vigor 2869 WAN settings

 

 

 

 


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  # 2126619 14-Nov-2018 14:57
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More than likely it is what it is unfortunately. Potentially you may even be better on ADSL in regards to the upload, sounds like you are right on that limit.

 

Changing any of the settings you have mentioned won't affect the line speed, it just needs to be set correctly for your ISP. Spark's settings are listed here

Can you please post screenshots of the line stats page?


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  # 2126621 14-Nov-2018 15:00
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Have you got the correct firmware installed? You will note on the draytek.com.au download page that there is an AU/NZ DSL firmware specific for us.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2126624 14-Nov-2018 15:04
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What are the xDSL sync stats? Maybe they are over 800 meters from the cabinet / exchange

 

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  # 2126631 14-Nov-2018 15:13
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wratterus:

 

More than likely it is what it is unfortunately. Potentially you may even be better on ADSL in regards to the upload, sounds like you are right on that limit.

 

Changing any of the settings you have mentioned won't affect the line speed, it just needs to be set correctly for your ISP. Spark's settings are listed here

Can you please post screenshots of the line stats page?

 

 

Thanks for the input - here's the stats:

 

Line Stats


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  # 2126634 14-Nov-2018 15:15
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You're significantly better there than you are going to get on ADSL. 

 

There should be a dedicated stats screen, like the following...


 

 

 

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  # 2126637 14-Nov-2018 15:17
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Mattmannz:

 

Have you got the correct firmware installed? You will note on the draytek.com.au download page that there is an AU/NZ DSL firmware specific for us.

 

 

Just checked and the firmware is slightly older, I'll definitely try upgrading to the NZ/AU version, I do see that on the site.




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  # 2126644 14-Nov-2018 15:33
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Mattmannz:

 

Have you got the correct firmware installed? You will note on the draytek.com.au download page that there is an AU/NZ DSL firmware specific for us.

 

 

 

 

@Mattmannz - can I use any of the firmwares listed here for this annex a modem? This one has the following details:

 

Model Name  Vigor2860  System Up Time  1:14:37 Router Name   Current Time  2018 Nov 14 Wed 14:32:10  Firmware Version  3.7.4.1  Build Date/Time  Mar 20 2014 14:09:50  DSL Version  548006_A  LAN MAC Address  00-1D-AA-BE-71-10Firmware list:Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-02v_en.zip Annex A Model: 574307_571801 & 573807_571701 (G. Vectoring)Recommended for Australia & New Zealand users Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-00_en.zip Annex A Model: 548006_544401 & 560816_552011 Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-01v_en.zip Annex A Model: 567517_562301 & 566207_562101 (G. Vectoring) Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-03v_en.zip Annex A Model: 576D17_572801 & 574307_571801 (G. Vectoring) Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-04_en.zipAnnex A Model: 579C17_573F01 & 579F17_573F01 (G. Vectoring)Recommended for Australia & New Zealand users


 
 
 
 




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  # 2126646 14-Nov-2018 15:36
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@wratterus - I can't seem to find that page, can I get the stats through the console? All the Draytek support information is behind a login so I can't read the support pages I'm finding on google.


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  # 2126648 14-Nov-2018 15:37
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On the Drayteks I've used, the line stats are under 'Diagnostics' then 'DSL Status' or something along those lines. 




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  # 2126650 14-Nov-2018 15:45
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I found these from the web console - vdsl wasn't an option but these look like the line stats. There's nothing I can find that has detailed line stats under diagnostics. No DSL Status option or similar.

 

 

 

Line Stats


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  # 2126683 14-Nov-2018 15:50
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Quick stab at the dark based on the line number printed there, looks very much like your serial number i'm seeing here.

 

 

 

Please upgrade your firmware to the Vectoring capable firmware.

 

I'll give it to you, previously it was faster, 29/2.1 though. That was on a HG630?

 

 

 

The iftn chipsets sync a little lower, which is exactly what your seeing.

 

Honestly, Not seeing a fault.

 

 

 

Historically months back it was a tad faster, that would have been on 8b, Vectoring is only 17a so you loose a bit of upstream power there.

 

Spectrum doesn't look too bad, Infact looks like it could be getting faster. Once again at this stage i put that down to modem or wiring based on initial checks.

 

 





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  # 2126685 14-Nov-2018 15:51
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Vigor2860_v3.8.9.3-02v_en.zip

 

 

 

Annex A Model: 574307_571801 & 573807_571701 (G. Vectoring)
Recommended for Australia & New Zealand users

 

 

 

 

 

Thats what you should be running. There are two files in the download, .ALL and .RST - don't apply the .RST as that factory resets it.

 

 

 

 




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  # 2126693 14-Nov-2018 16:01
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@Mattmannz sorry about the formatting on that last question - it did look nice until I submitted it!

 

I'll upgrade to that firmware and see how it goes - thanks! It almost seemed like they were listing different firmwares for different models so I was concerned it would be the wrong one.




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  # 2126701 14-Nov-2018 16:04
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hio77:

 

Quick stab at the dark based on the line number printed there, looks very much like your serial number i'm seeing here.

 

 

 

Please upgrade your firmware to the Vectoring capable firmware.

 

I'll give it to you, previously it was faster, 29/2.1 though. That was on a HG630?

 

 

 

The iftn chipsets sync a little lower, which is exactly what your seeing.

 

Honestly, Not seeing a fault.

 

 

 

Historically months back it was a tad faster, that would have been on 8b, Vectoring is only 17a so you loose a bit of upstream power there.

 

Spectrum doesn't look too bad, Infact looks like it could be getting faster. Once again at this stage i put that down to modem or wiring based on initial checks.

 

 

 

 

@Hio77 I'm not sure what you're getting at with a few of your points, but as noted by Mattmannz, I'll definitely upgrade the firmware to the vectoring capable NZ/AU firmware.

 

I don't know what you're referring to in regards to the previous speeds or the HG630.




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  # 2126703 14-Nov-2018 16:09
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@Hio77 I think I get it, you've checked on your end...

 

It does seem a bit slower after I switched from VC MUX to LLC/SNAP

 

It's always been on the Draytek, the 2860 was installed at the same time as the VDSL connection. 

 

Thanks for you input. 

 

Do you think 1Mbps or less upload speed is acceptable for a VDSL connection with those line stats?


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