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# 198377 6-Jul-2016 19:14
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Hi there. Quick question could sombody please confirm if schools give windows volume license keys to students for t heir home computers?

 

 

 

I wrote the main question at the top and gave a back ground of my sitation below so people did not have to read through a block of text.

 

 

 

 

 

I did  try to phone the microsoft Piracy phone number for NZ to ask the question but the phone line is dead... maybe the pirates stole it sealed

 

 

 

Outline. Somebody i know asked me to help them with their kids computer. I determined the OS needed reinstalling as it had failed a refresh and we could not go any further.

 

 

 

I asked them for their Windows COA and they said somebody gave it to them but they lost the key.

 

 

 

I ask did you pay for it? they said no it was given to them because its an "education key" but came from the person they purchased the parts off. They then contacted the person and they sent the key to them via text. This same person sold them their Computer parts and said because he is a student he can have the key as its educational key.

 

 

 

As far as I was aware the OS Volume licence keys for schools were only to go on school owned devices? (Noting this is windows 8.1Pro) On top of that the key did not even come from the school his child was going to. It came from another part of the country.

 

 

 

 

 

Now I know there is a program for windows 10 education however when you search the schools on the website for eligibility they don't come up, only tertiary providers show (Then I think its only discounted not free)

 

 

 

Long story short I told them they have to buy windows 10 from a retail shop like PB tech. They still insist on using this Key.

 

 

 

I said I would install windows 8.1 pro but would not enter the key so they would get their 30 day "trial" as I don't know if it is legitimate key or not. They would have to enter the key them self.

 

 

 

 





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  # 1587311 6-Jul-2016 21:10
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Imo your instinct will be correct on that one.

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  # 1587364 6-Jul-2016 22:32
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It is quite possible that the key itself could be legitimate. Whether your friends should be using the key may be another matter...

 

Basically, tertiary students (don't know about secondary) who take courses in IT/Computer Science usually get access to the Dreamspark Premium (formerly MSDNAA) program while they are enrolled in the course. Dreamspark Premium provides these students with access to various Microsoft products such as Windows client and server operating systems for free. It's possible to get more than one key as well, by default the key provided will support two activations (I think).

 

It's been a while since I last read the EULA, but from memory the gist of the agreement was the software was for the student to use for non-commercial/academic use only, and not to be shared. The keys are perpetual, and students can continue using the keys they "purchased" after graduation from the course.

 

 

 

So it is possible that the key in question came from the Dreamspark/MSDNAA program. Of course, if the key is an actual volume license key given to an institution for their own machines, this could cause more issues, as I don't believe those are ever given out for free...

 

 

 

(Note, I am a current student who has an active Dreamspark Premium account.)


 
 
 
 


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  # 1587448 7-Jul-2016 08:47
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At the most basic level, if they don't have the COA label, then they shouldn't have it installed.





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  # 1587472 7-Jul-2016 09:25
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What about Office365 Logins?

 

Many of these are valid for use on several machines.


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  # 1587490 7-Jul-2016 10:02
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The keys for Windows 10 education are only provided to schools from the VLSC site under the Microsoft Enrollment for Education Solutions from Microsoft.

 

These keys must only be used on school owned or leased devices not student devices, and are upgrade licences only, not clean installs.

 

 

 

(Disclaimer: the company i work for runs the free IT Helpdesk for schools from the MOE so I know this topic very very well)





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  # 1587492 7-Jul-2016 10:05
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Dairyxox:

 

What about Office365 Logins?

 

Many of these are valid for use on several machines.

 

 

 

 

Yes, but they're not for the Operating System, just the Office software.

 

 





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  # 1589414 11-Jul-2016 09:35
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Thanks for the input guys.

 

 

 

Sorry have been pretty busy and not been able to post back.

 

 

 

Gave them full warning that they should not be using the key.

 

 

 

So I cam to a compromise. I installed windows 8.1 pro this is what they had the key for.

 

But I put in an answer file to let me install windows without the key. Making it so that the computer would need activating in 30days.

 

 

 

Told them I have done as much as I can for them and it is upto them to sort a key out and wiped my hands of it.

 

 

 

At the end of the day, I have given them all the info. I did try to contact Microsoft and I did not put the suspect key in my self. Therefore my conscience is clear I did not install the suspect key I only put on the 30day grace period as MS allows you to do.

 

 

 

I did not follow up in regards to what they did about the key. My recommendation was to go and buy a Windows 10 home Retail box and install it. Gave them a website on how to install from a USB

 

 

 

Job done.

 

 

 

Thanks again.





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  # 1589416 11-Jul-2016 09:38
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nedkelly:

 

The keys for Windows 10 education are only provided to schools from the VLSC site under the Microsoft Enrollment for Education Solutions from Microsoft.

 

These keys must only be used on school owned or leased devices not student devices, and are upgrade licences only, not clean installs.

 

 

 

(Disclaimer: the company i work for runs the free IT Helpdesk for schools from the MOE so I know this topic very very well)

 

 

 

 

thanks for taking the time to post. see the above solution I came up with.





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