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#239699 30-Jul-2018 23:13
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Um so someone help me out here please.

 

A client has just e-mailed me.  He purchased a NUC on TM and it came with W10, but no COA sticker and it is not activated.

 

I have told him to go back to the seller.  I'm not sure how that went.  And I told him that activation is not critical and that, while Microsoft may change the game plan at a later date, the OS will currently continue to work, forever, albeit without access to many customisation options and Microsoft account logon stuff (it's a business PC and uses a local account).

 

Regardless, my client's obviously been looking at buying Windows.  And hence his e-mail, which I'll copy n' paste now...

 

"I still haven't sorted out the window license, and see some companies are offering a digital download for just $40, compared to around $200 plus at PBtech. See:

 

https://www.[removed].com/en_nz/windows-10-pro-32-64-bit.html

 

is this legitimate? / Worth using? / Am I likely to have any problems?"

 

 

 

(I hope that link isn't stripped out of my post.  If it is, it is from empire gaming (one word) dot com.)

 

Is this legit or what?  I note on the site that a key is e-mailed out only - so no COA sticker.

 

I don't know quite what to reply to him.  Looking for advice from others here.

 

Cheers,  Duncan.

 

 


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  #2065325 30-Jul-2018 23:14
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No, it's not legit. It will be a MAK or something similar.




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  #2065326 30-Jul-2018 23:19
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lxsw20:

 

No, it's not legit. It will be a MAK or something similar.

 

 

 

 

What's a MAK??? :)

 

cheers,  Duncan.


 
 
 
 


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  #2065327 30-Jul-2018 23:22
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Probably someone with a volume licence and just selling it while activations last.

 

No, it's not legal. 







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  #2065328 30-Jul-2018 23:22
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OK, well I've found this on MAK's...

 

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff793435.aspx

 

So, I presume, it's for Volume Licencing.

 

So yeah, not a legit way eh.

 

I'll wait for anymore replies and then reply to him tomorrow :)

 

 

 

Cheers,  Duncan.




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  #2065329 30-Jul-2018 23:24
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Thanks Mauricio and IXS - I think I have enough to go on.

 

Cheers dudes,  Duncan.


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  #2065331 30-Jul-2018 23:28
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You might want to run NirSofts ProduKey on the clients machine and see if there is a digital license in the BIOS. Used the tool today and activated a fresh Win10 installation using a Win7 key.





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  #2065334 30-Jul-2018 23:36
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IcI:

 

You might want to run NirSofts ProduKey on the clients machine and see if there is a digital license in the BIOS. Used the tool today and activated a fresh Win10 installation using a Win7 key.

 

 

 

 

More info please? (if relevant).  We don't have any keys.  The PC certainly doesn't have one (no COA sticker).

 

You saying the digital licence is the key?

 

I will look anyways - thanks.

 

Cheers,  Duncan.


 
 
 
 




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  #2065336 30-Jul-2018 23:40
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Update on ProduKey... (my highlighting)

 

Supported Products List

 

  • Microsoft Windows 98/ME
  • Microsoft Windows 2000
  • Microsoft Windows NT
  • Microsoft Windows XP
  • Microsoft Windows Vista
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2003
  • Microsoft Windows 7 (Doesn't work with Microsoft Volume Licensing)
  • Microsoft Windows 8 (Doesn't work with Microsoft Volume Licensing)
  • Microsoft Windows 10 (Doesn't work with all types of licenses)
  • Microsoft Office 2000 (Only ProductID is displayed)
  • Microsoft Office 2003
  • Microsoft Office 2007
  • Microsoft Office 2010
  • Microsoft SQL Server 2000
  • Microsoft SQL Server 2005
  • Microsoft Exchange Server 2000
  • Microsoft Exchange Server 2003
  • Visual Studio
  • Some of the Adobe and Autodesk products.

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  #2065357 31-Jul-2018 00:10
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I have a friend who bought a key from a site after seeing a pauls hardware video and it has been working fine for him. I am on the edge of getting a win 10 pro key just so I can get ReFS back that MS rudely took away from my free upgrade but not done it yet as I will be building the new PC up first.





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  #2065385 31-Jul-2018 07:41
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Once Windows 10 has been installed and activated on many new machines it is tied to the hardware meaning any future installs are simpler and don't require another key.

 

Going back to the original comment, no the licences aren't legal, and much like the people on eBay selling Office for ~$5 ($40 is expensive for Windows 10 using this method) they're reselling VMK or OEM keys that are sold technically in breach of Microsoft licencing when sold in this way.

 

Will it work? It should do. Will it work forever? There is no guarantee.

 

 


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  #2065760 31-Jul-2018 16:22
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DuncanMcC:

 

Update on ProduKey... (my highlighting)

 

 

There is software to read the key from the bios, thats what you need.
Sorry cant remember the name , you'll need to google it.

 

Chances are there is no software embeded lic anyway, if its an el cheapo .
And 10 install should 'read' bios lic keys when installed anyway.

 

 




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  #2065763 31-Jul-2018 16:23
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1101:

 

DuncanMcC:

 

Update on ProduKey... (my highlighting)

 

 

There is software to read the key from the bios, thats what you need.
Sorry cant remember the name , you'll need to google it.

 

Chances are there is no software embeded lic anyway, if its an el cheapo .
And 10 install should 'read' bios lic keys when installed anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers :)

 

 

 

Duncan.


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  #2065770 31-Jul-2018 16:36
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wratterus:

 

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025593/mini-pcs.html

 

 

 

Have a read of that, may be of some help.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, I'll give it a go.  Just tried it on my NUC which came w' W10 Pro image.  It returned nothing! :(  

 

(I have updated the BIOS several times now, mind).

 

 

 


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  #2065812 31-Jul-2018 18:18
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DuncanMcC:

 

IcI: You might want to run NirSofts ProduKey ...

 

More info please? (if relevant).

 

Version history from the same page:

 

Version 1.70 - Added support for BIOS OEM Key (Windows 8).

 

 

 

Or see Chapter 2 in 'How to extract the windows license key from a Lenovo T440p recovery CDs'





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