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MikeB4

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#3057160 31-Mar-2023 14:41

@old3eyes I have used Thunderbird from time to time and experimented with Geary. Thunderbird is OK if not a little dated. My Linux machines are not my primary devices, they are iMac and MacBook, on my Linux devices I use the web versions of Outlook and Gmail.

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#3057176 31-Mar-2023 15:10

MikeB4:

@old3eyes I have used Thunderbird from time to time and experimented with Geary. Thunderbird is OK if not a little dated. My Linux machines are not my primary devices, they are iMac and MacBook, on my Linux devices I use the web versions of Outlook and Gmail.

Thanx Mike,

Yes I've tried Thunderbird and it it's native format it make Exchange server accounts into IMAP which is OK if you don't want to share across multiple PCs but for proper Exchange Server support you need and add on which is about $15 and more money per extra account hence the reason for trying to get Office 365 running on it. I do like Linux and I could use it as a daily driver if I only need one email account.

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#3057732 1-Apr-2023 19:40

I've found Gnome wants to the Apple of Linux. They tell users how to use. They nerfed the theming
because they didn't like people changing things. KDE has the opposite attitude.

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#3057741 1-Apr-2023 20:34

jlittle: I've found Gnome wants to the Apple of Linux. They tell users how to use. They nerfed the theming
because they didn't like people changing things. KDE has the opposite attitude.

I prefer the simplicity of Gnome. KDE throws everything including the kitchen sink. Gnome is what an OS should be without being what the primary function. KDE puts the OS in your face.

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#3057755 1-Apr-2023 22:39

https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-ditch-snap/

Dreams do come true.

Doing your best is much more important than being the best.

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#3057762 2-Apr-2023 00:11

Bee: https://news.itsfoss.com/ubuntu-ditch-snap/

Dreams do come true.

Checks date....

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#3057767 2-Apr-2023 06:52

Yep check the date and Canonical do not announce release code names that far ahead.

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#3057883 2-Apr-2023 17:16

I used Fedora Cinnamon. Works great on all my devices.

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#3057884 2-Apr-2023 17:28

Ubuntu 23.4 Beta is available for download. I will grab it and try it to see what’s what

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#3059703 6-Apr-2023 10:54

Yeh I used to really like it. Have been a user since 2005ish... i think I first use 4.04.

As a desktop, about 5-6 years ago I realised that linux doesn't and probably will never cut it for what I need as a desktop OS.

Gnome and KDE are just terrible, buggy, and difficult to use.

My preferred setup is to use MacOS, and failing that a windows machine.

I run a lot of linux machines and spend most of my day with a terminal in front of me (and have done for the last 20 years). But SSH is my weapon of choice.

I have really gone off Ubuntu since about 18.04... with a preference for Redhat flavours now. CentOS Stream9 and Rocky are my current pick. Alpine for when I build containers.

I won't be going back to Gnome (any version) unless some significant usability improvements come.

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#3090060 14-Jun-2023 16:23

I am back using Ubuntu 23.04 on a couple of laptops. Clearly Canonical have been busy with updates as the experience is a lot better. I hope up coming update to Thunderbird will make this mail client a pleasure to use and modernize it. I amnot using Thunderbird and using web versions for Microsoft 365 and Gmail.

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#3090061 14-Jun-2023 16:35

darylblake:

Gnome and KDE are just terrible, buggy, and difficult to use.

I won't be going back to Gnome (any version) unless some significant usability improvements come.

whoa... I grant you there are some issues with them. But terrible is strong. I'm daily driving KDE Plasma (whatever the latest is) and gnome 44. KDE has better mouse support than gnome (can adjust scroll rate, my mouse is dumb). yes thats standard in any real OS, and its crazy its not in gnome, but i suspect most people never need to touch this, just my specific mouse has a slow scroll.

Gnome has come a long way recently, its really quite nice now. I prefer it over macos or windows (also daily drive windows 11 on work machine).

It would be nice if there were a few more things baked into gnome, so you didnt need 3rd party extensions like dashtodock, dashtopanel and some better wallpaper extensions. Those are pretty much all I use on gnome now. oh and arcmenu.

I'm back to Fedora now, I just have a better overall experience with fedora than i do ubuntu.

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#3094202 23-Jun-2023 18:17

Out of curiosity, I just put Debian 12 into a VM to see what it was like. Picked Gnome as the desktop as I am just after something simple.

Not that happy with it OOTB but after installing things like Gnome Tweaks and Extensions to reduce icon sizes etc. I actually quite like it.

Having played with Linux for a while, used it a bit in the real world (RedHat) and then more so with Raspberry Pis, I am partial to Debian based distros anyway.

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