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#113082 5-Jan-2013 07:46
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This is actually the first instance of a NZ company that I have provided personal information that misbehaved. For non established sites I sign up to I provide a unique email address based on the site name (similar to plus addressing that gmail supports for throw away purposes).

I can directly identify spam received from these guys (or them selling off email addresses to) because I had the unique identifier in my email which traces back to them. There are no other instances of the same email address was used. I have contacted Orcon complaints previously (more than a year back) about them and for a while I assumed this was resolved. Just today I got another spam email, which is why I believe these guys may have sold that info to another 3rd party:

Order: HJF-3664-76513144
Order Date: Thursday, 27 December 2012, 10:41 AM
Dear Customer,

Your parcel has arrived at the post office at December 31.Our courier was unable to deliver the parcel to you.

To receive your parcel, please, go to the nearest office and show this receipt.

query_status: 200 Active
domain_dateregistered: 2000-01-11T00:00:00+13:00
domain_datebilleduntil: 2013-01-11T00:00:00+13:00
domain_datelastmodified: 2012-12-11T23:40:28+13:00
domain_delegaterequested: yes
domain_signed: no
registrar_name: ProDNS
registrar_address1: A division of Orcon Internet Limited
registrar_address2: PO Box 302362
registrar_city: North Harbour
registrar_province: Auckland
registrar_postalcode: 1330
registrar_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
registrar_phone: +64 9 444-4414
registrar_fax: +64 9 444-4444
registrant_contact_name: OBD Limited
registrant_contact_address1: PO BOX 90936
registrant_contact_address2: AMSC
registrant_contact_city: Auckland
registrant_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
registrant_contact_phone: +64 9 377-8214
registrant_contact_fax: +64 9 274-8387
admin_contact_name: OBD Ltd
admin_contact_address1: PO Box 90936 AMSC
admin_contact_city: Auckland
admin_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
admin_contact_phone: +64 9 3778214
admin_contact_fax: +64 9 3778216
technical_contact_name: Michael Blackman
technical_contact_address1: 41C Salisbury Road
technical_contact_address2: Birkdale, Auckland
technical_contact_city: Auckland
technical_contact_postalcode: 1013
technical_contact_country: NZ (NEW ZEALAND)
technical_contact_phone: +64 9 3600806

Edit: I think the topic title was a bit of a sensationalist header, and not meant to imply that Orcon was at fault.

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  #740349 5-Jan-2013 08:01
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Out of curiosity what do you believe this has to do with Orcon? They are merely the registrar for the domain.

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  #740353 5-Jan-2013 08:17
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Not meant to suggest Orcon take action but just for them to be aware of who they provide their services to, as a registrar and NS provider - I'm going by their registrant terms were written such that their definition of "a lawful purpose" disclaims any responsibility.

It is really a non issue for my end. I just set a junk filter which matches the email address used. But just FYI to people I guess.

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  #740355 5-Jan-2013 08:24
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I don't share the view that a registrar should "be aware of who they provide their services to".

We don't know if this is a case of intentional spam or a data breach. Is the email you received from a company different from ezycoupons (as you say " these guys may have sold that info to another 3rd party" and I am not sure it means this latest spam is from a different company/service).

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  #740360 5-Jan-2013 08:38
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I haven't investigated the email headers yet as I am remote at the moment.

You are quite right that we don't know how that email address was obtained in the first place. It could be a data breach or one of their 3rd party advertisers that appear on their website. Admittedly there is no guidance on what they do with the information.

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  #744534 14-Jan-2013 14:06
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I have moved this to Off Topic as the topic doesn't seem to be related to the ISP.

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