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  #1783405 16-May-2017 21:43
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Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

Of course there is. Talk to your butcher. If you can't talk to your butcher, you are shopping in the wrong place.

I love meat, and my butcher is fantastic - I would say a craftsman. He only sells meat he believes in. Very close to a calling, actually. It's delicious.

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  #1783411 16-May-2017 22:18
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Geektastic: 

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

 

I've seen that here too.





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  #1783439 17-May-2017 00:13
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BlinkyBill:
Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

Of course there is. Talk to your butcher. If you can't talk to your butcher, you are shopping in the wrong place.

I love meat, and my butcher is fantastic - I would say a craftsman. He only sells meat he believes in. Very close to a calling, actually. It's delicious.

 

 

 

Please name your butcher, I wish to visit!

 

 




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  #1783440 17-May-2017 00:14
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Geektastic:

 

eracode:

 

Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

 

Most NZ supermarkets do distinguish between Prime and Premium beef mince.

 

 

 

 

Yes. By labelling it "Premium" or not, without actually stating what their definition of that is.

 

 

 

 

I did a quick google. 

 

Mince is available in a range of meats and grades.

Beef Mince

Beef mince comes in three grades.

 

 

 

  • Premium - is less than 5% total fat and meets the Heart Foundation Tick criterion of 4% less saturated fat.
  • Prime - is less than 10% fat.
  • Standard - has a fat content of 10-20%.
Lamb Mince

Trim lamb mince has less than 10% total fat.

Pork Mince

100% New Zealand Trim Pork Mince is less than 10% total fat and meets the Heart Foundation Tick criterion of 4% or less saturated fat.

 

 

 

 

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  #1783550 17-May-2017 10:07
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networkn:

Geektastic:


eracode:


Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.


Most NZ supermarkets do distinguish between Prime and Premium beef mince.



 


Yes. By labelling it "Premium" or not, without actually stating what their definition of that is.



 


I did a quick google. 


Mince is available in a range of meats and grades.

Beef Mince

Beef mince comes in three grades.

 



  • Premium - is less than 5% total fat and meets the Heart Foundation Tick criterion of 4% less saturated fat.

  • Prime - is less than 10% fat.

  • Standard - has a fat content of 10-20%.


Lamb Mince

Trim lamb mince has less than 10% total fat.

Pork Mince

100% New Zealand Trim Pork Mince is less than 10% total fat and meets the Heart Foundation Tick criterion of 4% or less saturated fat.
 
 


And are supermarkets obliged to obey those criteria or not?
And should you need to reach for Google when shopping? All other products require clear labelling: why not meat?





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  #1783556 17-May-2017 10:10
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One thing I do know when it comes to meat. Cheap very rarely means good!





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  #1783569 17-May-2017 10:32
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eracode:

 

Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

 

Most NZ supermarkets do distinguish between Prime and Premium beef mince.

 

 

I don't need a label:

 

Good mince (premium) = red meat

 

Not so good mince  = grey meat.

 

 




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  #1783570 17-May-2017 10:34
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dafman:

 

eracode:

 

Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

 

Most NZ supermarkets do distinguish between Prime and Premium beef mince.

 

 

I don't need a label:

 

Good mince (premium) = red meat

 

Not so good mince  = grey meat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, mince can be grey and be 100% fine, it's just had oxygen exposure. You'll often find your mince goes that colour in the fridge.

 

To be fair our mince doesn't last long enough for that though. 

 

 

 

 


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Not surprised TBH but have tried their meat and don't like the quality plus the shops always stink of chemicals.


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  #1784037 18-May-2017 10:16
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networkn:

 

dafman:

 

eracode:

 

Geektastic: There's no obvious way to tell premium and non premium apart as no shop seems to bother actually putting labelling on minced beef to enable you to make an informed decision.

UK supermarkets put average fat percentage stickers on the packs, so premium might be 5%, normal might be 10% etc.

 

Most NZ supermarkets do distinguish between Prime and Premium beef mince.

 

 

I don't need a label:

 

Good mince (premium) = red meat

 

Not so good mince  = grey meat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, mince can be grey and be 100% fine, it's just had oxygen exposure. You'll often find your mince goes that colour in the fridge.

 

To be fair our mince doesn't last long enough for that though. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until it broke, we had a mincer attachment for our Kenwood Chef.

 

When I saw things like whole rump selling cheap, I would buy one and put it through the mincer, then bag it and freeze it. Excellent mice and cost effective.






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  #1784055 18-May-2017 10:31
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We have only been in the Mad Butcher once, it was when we were looking for alternatives to the god awful Supermarket meats. It was not, Mad Butcher is  horrible meat. We now travel from Wellington to Greytown twice a month to get our meat, well worth the trip for great meat and they have the best sausages period in New Zealand. 


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  #1784075 18-May-2017 11:08
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Mad Butcher stores vary greatly from one location to another. I have two sort of close to where I live, the one in Henderson is disgusting and Im almost always unhappy with the majority of meat we get from there (try not to go there these days).  But the one in Glen Eden is a much nicer store, cleaner, friendly staff and the meat seems to be a whole heap more consistent in general.  Seems half of them today are more interested in selling all the addons rather than selling nice meat.  I prefer the Aussie Butcher but they tend to be a little pricey.  

 

Also they all seem to have their own specials.  

 

To be honest I dont like the mad butcher mince though.  But when they have their American pork on sale I get that cause it just tends to be damned nice meat! 


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  #1784081 18-May-2017 11:15
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I must admit, our local Aussie butcher is amazing. 

 

 


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  #1784292 18-May-2017 14:58
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Mad Butcher....BSE....not a good look!






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  #1784322 18-May-2017 15:50
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BTR:

 

Not surprised TBH but have tried their meat and don't like the quality plus the shops always stink of chemicals.

 

 

Chemical smell = clean.  I find that reassuring.





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