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  # 1923043 21-Dec-2017 10:51
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S Biddle In the link I included earlier on application of Part 2 Reference 75 gift concession the 2nd worked example was a $350 camera and the amount worked out to be about $46 " Not collected. below minimum collectable "
Why would they include that if de minimus did not apply to gifts?

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  # 1923104 21-Dec-2017 12:08
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kryptonjohn:

 

 

 

Hey mate, calm down I wasn't replying to you and hadn't noticed your post so the attitude is not necessary.

 

 

Sorry that wasn;'t my intention.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1923106 21-Dec-2017 12:10
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kryptonjohn:

 

 

 

Hey mate, calm down I wasn't replying to you and hadn't noticed your post so the attitude is not necessary.

 

 

Sorry that wasn;'t my intention.

 

 

Forgotten about it already - have a great Xmas! :-D

 

 


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  # 1923256 21-Dec-2017 16:18
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Um... so what is the point of the gift concession at all then? Nothing valued up to $110 (gift or not) will incur duty or GST anyway.


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  # 1923262 21-Dec-2017 16:43
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Um... so what is the point of the gift concession at all then? Nothing valued up to $110 (gift or not) will incur duty or GST anyway.

 

 

 

 

The gift concession has existed for a long time.. And remember tariffs on many products (such as shoes and clothing) used to be very high.

 

 


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  # 1923263 21-Dec-2017 16:45
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Bung: S Biddle In the link I included earlier on application of Part 2 Reference 75 gift concession the 2nd worked example was a $350 camera and the amount worked out to be about $46 " Not collected. below minimum collectable "
Why would they include that if de minimus did not apply to gifts?

 

 

 

My understanding after discussing this issue with somebody at Customs last year was that the de minimis did not apply on top of the gift concession.

 

The legislation itself isn't that clear, so it could well be that what they've told me isn't entirely correct.

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 1923264 21-Dec-2017 16:46
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If for example a relative overseas sent a parcel of gifts for your family you would get the $110 allowance for each member. If you ordered the same items you'd pay as usual on the total. Alcohol gifts still get the allowance but personal alcohol imports pay duty & gst etc with no "de minimus" exemption.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1923267 21-Dec-2017 16:58
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Bung: S Biddle In the link I included earlier on application of Part 2 Reference 75 gift concession the 2nd worked example was a $350 camera and the amount worked out to be about $46 " Not collected. below minimum collectable "
Why would they include that if de minimus did not apply to gifts?


 


My understanding after discussing this issue with somebody at Customs last year was that the de minimis did not apply on top of the gift concession.


The legislation itself isn't that clear, so it could well be that what they've told me isn't entirely correct.



 


 



He was probably jumping to the the usual bottle of Scotch conclusion from force of habit.

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  # 1923271 21-Dec-2017 17:04
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Bung: S Biddle In the link I included earlier on application of Part 2 Reference 75 gift concession the 2nd worked example was a $350 camera and the amount worked out to be about $46 " Not collected. below minimum collectable "
Why would they include that if de minimus did not apply to gifts?

 

 

 

My understanding after discussing this issue with somebody at Customs last year was that the de minimis did not apply on top of the gift concession.

 

The legislation itself isn't that clear, so it could well be that what they've told me isn't entirely correct.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My reading of it on the customs website as below, does say that the $110 allowance is per gift in the package, if they are each for a different person. So from my understanding, if there are 4 gifts in the parcel for 4 children, each has a concession of $110, so that would be $440.

 

 

 

Gift parcels (where the contents are intended for more than one person) with a total declared value in excess of $NZ110 may be allowed multiple gift allowances, provided the separate identity of each recipient can be established. However, the concession may not be combined by multiple persons on one item

 

 

 

 

 

Legislation IMO shouldn't have money amounts written into the law, as they get outdated very quickly, and don't take into account inflation and other price prices associated with having the fee. There should be a central gov department that manages charges and keeps them up to date, and legislation should refer to that. But I guess that makes too much sense.


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  # 1923272 21-Dec-2017 17:07
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Yes there should be a schedule which the legislation refers to, that can be changed without changing the legislation.


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  # 1923286 21-Dec-2017 17:40
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Yes there should be a schedule which the legislation refers to, that can be changed without changing the legislation.

 

 

 

 

I wonder why that doesn't happen. Would save so much hassle and make so much sense. Some of the amounts inlegislation (and this appears to be a prime example) is out of date within a few years.


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The older I get, the more bizarre and medieval tax seems to me, especially at the border. Oh, you've moved something to somewhere else, give me some money! Why?? Coz!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've always felt that way about GST/VAT. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Oh - you bought a new washing machine with the 65% of your income we allowed you to keep? Well, give us another 15% then!"

 



And we'll put in towards a new hip for those pensioners

 

Umm wait, the hips can wait, give it to the drunk students NOW





Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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