Oh, okay, I get it now. I also raised this in the politics forum, but in regard to the violence of the remarks, not the coal aspect.

Alan Jones gets paid by the decibel, not the fact-ibel.

Every week climate change gets a hit. Greenland. To mention one. It's done.

tdgeek:

 

Every week climate change gets a hit. Greenland. To mention one. It's done.

 

Has Trump bought it after all?

Dingbatt:

 

tdgeek:

 

Every week climate change gets a hit. Greenland. To mention one. It's done.

 

 

Has Trump bought it after all?

 

Lol that wasn't my intention of my post. Im not aware he has bought it, as his asset value is minimal if not negative.

Years ago I watched a doco. If the temp increased by 1, 2, 3, 6 etc. We get to a point where forget about reducing it, focus on managing it. Food, Desalination plants, wars to access food growing areas. Economics goes out the window, its about survival. Right now its ONLY about economics. 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/51183/greta-thunberg-sailed-new-york-avoid-contributing-ashe-schow

 

Greta Thunberg Sailed To New York To Avoid Contributing To Climate Change. There’s Just One Problem.

 

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The Associated Press reported that two members of Team Malizia will be flown to the U.S. to retrieve the boat and will pay to offset the flight’s carbon emissions.

 

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The Daily Wire’s Emily Zanotti reported that celebrities and activists took more than 1,500 private jets to attend a posh climate change event in Switzerland. Leonardo DiCaprio — one of Hollywood’s biggest proponents of climate change hysteria — continues to use yachts and private jets, as does former Vice President Al Gore. They also have multiple homes and fly far more regularly than the average person, yet they pay others to reduce their carbon emissions so they don’t have to.

what can I do to help? by not participating in certain activities

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12269712

Not sure what you are referring to. The article is about fake news propagated by the coal lobby. 

Currently reading The uninhabitable earth by David Wallace-Wells while travelling around a fair amount of the USA. Seeing the almost total lake of sustainability being practiced here I think the book is right in that we are to late and not enough people really care or a willing to change so we might as well stop focusing on avoidance and start focusing on how we will live in a world that is 4+ degrees warmer then now. Since the Paris agreement fossil fuel use has nearly doubled. 

how will NZ cope with climate refugees and how will we respond to climate driven war as parts of the planet become completely uninhabitable? I want to hear our politicians talk about the plans for the inevitable not how can we save a few bits of carbon here and there. Unless the largest country’s in the world are willing to completely change their way of life, we are doomed to live out the projections of a warmer world and all that that entails.

I am torn. The kids who want a future have every right to tell off the gutless politicians who are screwing them. But After watching Trump and Morrison feed coal to each other, and after seeing the 5G nut thread here, I can't help thinking that the sooner we are gone, the better for the poor struggling life-forms we are ushering into extinction. I just saw something about climate change also reducing the nutrient value of our food crops. As it gets warmer, we get dumber and more feeble. Maybe that explains the 5G antipathy.

geekiegeek:

 

Currently reading The uninhabitable earth by David Wallace-Wells while travelling around a fair amount of the USA. Seeing the almost total lake of sustainability being practiced here I think the book is right in that we are to late and not enough people really care or a willing to change so we might as well stop focusing on avoidance and start focusing on how we will live in a world that is 4+ degrees warmer then now. Since the Paris agreement fossil fuel use has nearly doubled. 

how will NZ cope with climate refugees and how will we respond to climate driven war as parts of the planet become completely uninhabitable? I want to hear our politicians talk about the plans for the inevitable not how can we save a few bits of carbon here and there. Unless the largest country’s in the world are willing to completely change their way of life, we are doomed to live out the projections of a warmer world and all that that entails.

 

We have try to do the best we can on both avoidance and adaptation. Mainly because if we don't, there may not be any capacity to adapt.......Example: We can't breathe hydrogen sulphide if the bacteria kick off in the wrong direction.  It's happened before. Everything not living in the seas died.

I think when the proverbial really hits the fan, governments will react strongly.....and we may see sanctions (or even attacks) on countries that fail to address emissions. 

Right now, people think they have a choice. I see this all the time when talking about electric cars. "I'll wait until they are cheaper". They think they have a choice. They don't realise it's already too late.

I'm reminded of a particular video of the tsunami in Japan a few years ago. The quake had happened. The person with the video camera was some distance up a river that flowed to the ocean near by. The sirens were wailing and the message was get to high ground immediately. Civil defence people in a black uniforms and white helmets were telling people to run for it.

But many didn't run. They stood along the promenade by the river watching for the tsunami. After a few minutes, a small wave passed by up the river...and they kept watching. The water got deeper and deeper and faster and faster....and they kept watching.

They didn't realise they were now walking dead. It was too late. Within the next minute the water poured over the wall...and those who were now running were swept away.

That's us right now.