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Dingbatt
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  #2749298 24-Jul-2021 20:21
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No, what I’m saying is the biggest disaster gets the biggest billing, because for the media it is all just disaster porn. Comparing Bezos’ media minutes with last year’s coverage of CC when there was/is a pandemic is just playing with numbers.

 

Why didn’t they compare it with coverage of a royal wedding?





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  #2749378 24-Jul-2021 22:53
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Dingbatt:

 

No, what I’m saying is the biggest disaster gets the biggest billing, because for the media it is all just disaster porn. Comparing Bezos’ media minutes with last year’s coverage of CC when there was/is a pandemic is just playing with numbers.

 

Why didn’t they compare it with coverage of a royal wedding?

 

 

Fair enough - and thanks for replying.

 

I can't see any obvious solution.


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  #2749390 25-Jul-2021 07:35
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frednz:

 

So, what can you do to help halt global warming and when do you propose to do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i already do it everyday. by watching space tourism on youtube instead of doing it https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57950149

 

i'm surprised these 2 guys don't have an electric car to sell to you

 

 





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  #2749391 25-Jul-2021 07:36
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meanwhile steak and cheese could be back on the menu - if you don't like swimming ... https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/125779068/methane-vaccine-for-cows-could-be-game-changer-for-global-emissions

 

 





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Batman:

 

meanwhile steak and cheese could be back on the menu - if you don't like swimming ... https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/125779068/methane-vaccine-for-cows-could-be-game-changer-for-global-emissions

 

 

 

 

Yes, I always figured that it would be easier for us to reduce global emissions by 0.16% rather than trying to reduce NZ emissions by 100%


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Bought a bicycle trailer.





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https://aisvip-a.akamaihd.net/masters/1692257/800x450/us-soldaten-helfen-im-hochwassergebiet-in-rheinland-pfalz.jpg

 

Recently in Germany due to heavy rainfall caused floods. This were solid, stone build houses with a safety factor 2.7 constructed in.

 

 





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  #2753008 31-Jul-2021 17:59
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Tinkerisk:

 

Bought a bicycle trailer.

 

 

A trailer to put the bicycle on or a trailer to go behind the bicycle? 

 

 





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  #2753014 31-Jul-2021 18:07
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Rikkitic:

 

Tinkerisk:

 

Bought a bicycle trailer.

 

 

A trailer to put the bicycle on or a trailer to go behind the bicycle? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A trailer behind the bicycle. ;-)

 

 

 

(which was hard enough. Bicycles ran out of supply during pandemic)





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  #2753020 31-Jul-2021 18:22
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/30/greenland-ice-sheet-florida-water-climate-crisis

 

No accident

 

Greenland’s vast ice sheet is undergoing a surge in melting, with the amount of ice vanishing in a single day this week enough to cover the whole of Florida in two inches of water, researchers have found.


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  #2753028 31-Jul-2021 18:56
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So the 1.7m sqkm Greenland ice sheet which is 5000ft thick is melting enough in the middle of summer to cover the 170k sqkm of Florida in 2 inches of water in a day?

 

The continual loss over decades is a concern but that kind of data from The Gaurdian is just a nonsense. If they used the 0.44 sqkm that the Vatican City covers they would have got a much more impressive depth.





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  #2753029 31-Jul-2021 18:58
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Tinkerisk:

 

A trailer behind the bicycle. ;-)

 

 

 

(which was hard enough. Bicycles ran out of supply during pandemic)

 

 

English is such an imprecise language.

 

 

 

 





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  #2753030 31-Jul-2021 19:03
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Dingbatt:

 

So the 1.7m sqkm Greenland ice sheet which is 5000ft thick is melting enough in the middle of summer to cover the 170k sqkm of Florida in 2 inches of water in a day?

 

The continual loss over decades is a concern but that kind of data from The Gaurdian is just a nonsense. If they used the 0.44 sqkm that the Vatican City covers they would have got a much more impressive depth.

 

 

Are you disputing the ice melt, given the ice melt happens ever Summer? Media exaggerating it?


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  #2753034 31-Jul-2021 19:08
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tdgeek:

 

Are you disputing the ice melt, given the ice melt happens ever Summer? Media exaggerating it?

 



 

Neither.

 

Just that the comparison between Greenland and Florida is meaningless.

 

 

 

Edit (after post below but was doing calculation): If they had used the Vatican City as I suggested then it would be under approx 386363 inches (64393 ft) of water.





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  #2753039 31-Jul-2021 19:18
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Dingbatt:

 

 

 

Neither.

 

Just that the comparison between Greenland and Florida is meaningless.

 

 

Ok. On the positive side it should cause awareness. 

 

Greenland’s ice is melting faster than any time in the past 12,000 years, scientists have calculated, with the ice loss running at a rate of around one million tons a minute in 2019. Greenland and the earth’s other polar region of Antarctica have together lost 6.3tn tons of ice since 1994.

 

This rate of ice loss, which is accelerating as temperatures continue to increase, is changing ocean currents, altering marine ecosystems and posing a direct threat to the world’s low-lying coastal cities, which risk being inundated by flooding.

 

The ice sheets reflect light, so they in that area stop global warming. The more ice sheets melt the less reflection there is, i.e. more solar enters the atmosphere. Its an accelerating effect. More solar not reflected away means more melting, means more solar let in equals more melting. Its a runaway effect. While the gradual ocean level rise isn't "fantastic" and affecting anyone in the next two years, it all adds up. 

 

As usual, these events will be noted, with no action. We can continue to watch more tornadoes, more C5 hurricanes, and more flash floods.


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