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  #2812023 13-Nov-2021 05:55
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gzt: Home wood burners in practice are not an issue for climate change. I doubt the government or any of the parties in parliament have any concerns about home wood burners from a climate change perspective.


I take it neither are cows and the trucks that drive their milk around the country.




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  #2812085 13-Nov-2021 08:01
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With the US and Canada having shortages of meat and dairy, don't expect any constraints against New Zealand diary farmers, even for destroying rivers and watersheds.

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  #2812089 13-Nov-2021 08:31
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Batman: I thought sea levels are higher because of melting ice?

Here's what I don't understand... How gas including water vapour don't escape the earth's gravity and fly away into the ether.


Gas is always escaping. Our atmosphere extends halfway to the moon. Luckily we have a sufficient gravity to keep most of it, and space debris and geologic processes like volcanoes keep adding more.

Mars once had free flowing water, and a denser atmosphere. Now it doesn't, in large part due to a weaker gravity.

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  #2812104 13-Nov-2021 09:08
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interesting.

 

so our ancestors had denser atmosphere and our descendants will have thinner atmostphere?





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  #2812177 13-Nov-2021 09:45
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Not necessarily. As things heat up, rocks like limestone outgas, which would be bad.

This video talks about it indirectly. Venus has 96% CO2, and 92 denser than Earth, because of outgassing.

It's not impossible that Earth could become like Venus if we get into a positive feedback loop: more CO2 makes things hotter, which causes rocks to release more CO2, repeat until you're Venus

We don't know when it's too late, and hopefully we never will.

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  #2812178 13-Nov-2021 09:50
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Done my share - not having kids. Beats me why no 'solutions' include reducing the population growth, given that there's a high correlation between  human population and degradation of the environment. Natural resources are not unlimited.


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  #2812179 13-Nov-2021 09:51
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Re Venus: Yep. And move Earth’s orbit 40m km closer to the Sun and slow it’s rotation so one day= one year.





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  #2812182 13-Nov-2021 10:09
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The Washington Post - COP26 in Glasgow may have a record carbon footprint, despite low-flush loos and veggie haggis

 

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GLASGOW, Scotland - The British government promised to host a carbon-neutral climate conference, but even after all the showy sustainability - the reusable coffee cups, the low-flush loos, the paperless draft documents, the locally sourced vegetarian haggis - COP26 may be the highest emitting United Nations environmental summit so far.

 

The government’s official carbon counter, London-based design and engineering consultant Arup, gave a preliminary estimate that COP26 will be responsible for 102,500 tons of carbon dioxide equivalents. 

 

That is twice as much carbon as calculated in association with the previous climate summits in Madrid in 2019 and Paris in 2015, and four times as much as the earlier climate summits in Copenhagen and Durban, South Africa, according to figures compiled by The Washington Post. ...

 

This COP is bigger than the previous iterations, with nearly 40,000 registered participants, including delegates, observers and media. ...

 

 

 

 

PS   My own tiny contribution to the planet - I no longer drive a car.





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  #2830950 12-Dec-2021 18:34
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Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 





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  #2830959 12-Dec-2021 19:16
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Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

December. Cold. Ive spent a lot of time there in the southern states Oct/Nov, not so cold, but it can be cold. Further north, colder

 

Land on the moon in 1969, ignore climate change 52 years later.

 

I thought taxes were for running Govt, health, infrastructure, the internet, but fast forward, it will go to the building industry. Build, rebuild. 


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  #2831381 13-Dec-2021 12:26
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Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

"much of" ??? Really???

 

I think the words you are looking are "tiny little corners of".

 

 


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  #2831384 13-Dec-2021 12:31
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frankv:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

"much of" ??? Really???

 

I think the words you are looking are "tiny little corners of".

 

 

 

 

That's correct. The big issue is this time of year, a week from the shortest day in the Northern Hemisphere, Winter.  Or go down under, where the bush fires reign in Summer in Australia, bad flooding right now. More heat = more water in the atmosphere and more weather, its a lot more than a quicker tan


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  #2831500 13-Dec-2021 15:02
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frankv:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

"much of" ??? Really???

 

I think the words you are looking are "tiny little corners of".

 

 

 

 

Tell that to the people who got hit.

 

 





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  #2831503 13-Dec-2021 15:09
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Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

define record braking
then define scaremongering

 

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/10-worst-tornadoes-in-us-history-2647160

 

 


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  #2831510 13-Dec-2021 15:28
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1101:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Now that record-breaking super tornadoes (predicted by climate experts) have wiped out much of Kentucky and neighbouring states, does anyone still think that climate change isn't real?

 

 

define record braking
then define scaremongering

 

 

 

 

 

 

From Google  "In the United States over 80 deaths and 1,500 injuries are associated with tornadoes each year."

 

From CNN  "More than 100 people are feared dead, including at least 80 in Kentucky, according to state and local officials." (in one day)

 

 

 

I'm unsure if this is a record, but in the non tornado season it's indeed mind blowing. What will it be like "in season"?

 

 

 

Re record "braking", a Formula One car stops at 200+mph in about 80 metres,that's bound to be a record for a 1.6 litre car :-)

 

 

 

7 of those 10 were a LONG time ago, so I wonder what this event would have been ;like in 1840 or 1920, to get a better comparison of deaths, as the buildings that exist, matter.

 

 


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