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#3332397 16-Jan-2025 18:57

Its not all celebrities, more the bulk of people that work and worked at various levels in industries around the region.

Altadena has historically been a relatively affordable place for working class and middle-class families, many whom work in creative fields.

( Ok working to middle class is not the same as Springfield Ma, but still )

Farisai Kambarami, a second camera assistant on films like “Black Panther: Wakanda Forever” and “Horizon,” moved to Altadena in November because he and his wife needed a larger place to accommodate newborn twins.

It might be a 'background actor' that did not work enough last year to qualify for health insurance.

In Altadena, talent manager Alexander Shekarchian and his fiancée, Dr. Moogega Cooper, a NASA engineer at the nearby Jet Propulsion Laboratory, had a similar response.

Older people, some have talked of their grandparents homes built when values were a bit less crazy.

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#3332538 17-Jan-2025 07:56

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A new fire has broken out in the Hollywood hills. Doesn't look good.

Or maybe not. Someone sent me this but it may be an old link. Not clear what the date is.

Its a junk channel. The name should give it away. Sad that people see and share stuff like that and its clear that is why there is such a problem with fake news.

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#3332624 17-Jan-2025 09:55

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Its a junk channel. The name should give it away. Sad that people see and share stuff like that and its clear that is why there is such a problem with fake news.

Yeah, I should have checked it better. My sister sent it and it looked real enough at first glance. I notice there seems to be an enormous explosion of 'junk' channels at the moment. I have been caught out a few times by ones that seemed genuine, but ended up just being an AI voice rabbiting on and on about nothing and never touching on the promised subject. I have now learned to recognise these and shut them down almost immediately.

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#3332764 17-Jan-2025 14:26

There’s a lot of advice from firefighters on YT suggesting what to do before you abandon when wildfires are coming. Very interesting take, such as turn all the lights on. Turn on all taps and hoses outside and leave on, face the car on to the street, take anything flammable like wood etc at least 30 feet away from the house and open any gates. Block up all the air vents around the house with non flammable material, like tin and can secure with metal tape.

There were also a few that showed how they saved their homes with garden sprinklers on the roof and the materials used. Certainly made me think about fire on a deeper level. Going to buy a few of those oscillating sprinklers and have them ready with their clip ons since we live on a hill of bush that has caught fire a couple times.

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#3332772 17-Jan-2025 14:52

Eva888:

There’s a lot of advice from firefighters on YT suggesting what to do before you abandon when wildfires are coming. Very interesting take, such as turn all the lights on. Turn on all taps and hoses outside and leave on,

Thats interesting, I've seen other advice that says turn off the water at the street (or whatever the equivalent in the USA is) as if your house is burnt down all the plumbing fixtures melt or are destroyed and then you end up with water continuously flowing through whatever is left of your house creating further damage and reducing the water pressure for those who haven't lost their houses...

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#3334009 21-Jan-2025 09:37

Eva888:

There’s a lot of advice from firefighters on YT suggesting what to do before you abandon when wildfires are coming. Very interesting take, such as turn all the lights on.

What's the reasoning behind turning on all the lights?

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#3334011 21-Jan-2025 09:42

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Eva888:

There’s a lot of advice from firefighters on YT suggesting what to do before you abandon when wildfires are coming. Very interesting take, such as turn all the lights on.

What's the reasoning behind turning on all the lights?

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#3334013 21-Jan-2025 09:45

Significantly faster and easier to do a search if the lights are on vs off.

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#3334018 21-Jan-2025 09:53

Keeps the looters away?

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#3334020 21-Jan-2025 10:02

Dense smoke overhead will block out any natural light very quickly. I've seen footage from Australian rural fire fighters taken at midday that is pitch black. Any time spent fumbling around for a light switch when searching a home is valuable time lost.

Just a thought?

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#3334023 21-Jan-2025 10:07

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My sympathy is diminished if you live somewhere prone to natural disasters - and do nothing to mitigate the risks.

On the other hand, it's the same with floods in NZ - when people buy a house they have a reasonable expectation that some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to the council for consents has gone towards ensuring buildings aren't consented in a flood zone...

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#3334097 21-Jan-2025 13:02

Eva888:

There were also a few that showed how they saved their homes with garden sprinklers on the roof and the materials used. Certainly made me think about fire on a deeper level. Going to buy a few of those oscillating sprinklers and have them ready with their clip ons since we live on a hill of bush that has caught fire a couple times.

I don't think sprinklers or even the amount of water your house can produce, would keep a fire that is burning at >500c. The water would evaporate long before the fire got near the house. Wind is the biggest factor. Luck would have been a far greater influence than leaving a sprinkler running.

There is a video somewhere on youtube, showing a under copter bucket dropping a load into an active fire, and it turning to steam before it hit the ground.

Most people can't comphrehend the heat that is being generated and the volume of it.

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#3334157 21-Jan-2025 13:35

Of course a sprinkler is useless against a fire storm. But maybe it can help by putting stray embers out before the house starts burning. I don't know but I would image they might have some preventive effect depending on circumstances.

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#3334215 21-Jan-2025 16:12

cddt: On the other hand, it's the same with floods in NZ - when people buy a house they have a reasonable expectation that some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to the council for consents has gone towards ensuring buildings aren't consented in a flood zone...

You're not from Auckland are you? Until Anniversary Weekend in 2023 you'd have a reasonable expectation that the council was packing as many units into flood plains and known slip areas as they could collect the fees for.

That's not snark, that's literally the case. And the developers loved it, the land was cheap because it was a flood zone and no-one else wanted it.

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#3334228 21-Jan-2025 16:36

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cddt: On the other hand, it's the same with floods in NZ - when people buy a house they have a reasonable expectation that some of the hundreds of thousands of dollars paid to the council for consents has gone towards ensuring buildings aren't consented in a flood zone...

You're not from Auckland are you? Until Anniversary Weekend in 2023 you'd have a reasonable expectation that the council was packing as many units into flood plains and known slip areas as they could collect the fees for.

That's not snark, that's literally the case. And the developers loved it, the land was cheap because it was a flood zone and no-one else wanted it.

Hawkes bay same thing, property development in the middle of large flat areas. almost like if the land was formed because of silty runoff settling that its gonna have more of the same at some point.

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