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#159866 15-Dec-2014 14:08
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Well it had officially happened, the OZ govt have bought back that country's copper network and will use it as the "last mile" in the NBN which will now become a "fibre to the node" network, While this is a short term solution to speed up the rollout, I think in the long term it will be a major millstone, I am looking foward to the Ozzy press lamenting their poor speeds in about 5-10 years time when NZ UFB is offering speeds well north of 200Mbs, http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/12/telstra-signs-new-11-billion-agreement-with-nbn-co/ 


Rather than pay Telstra $11 billion to decommission the copper network under the previous Labor government’s plan, the new Coalition Government will pay the telco the same amount with slightly different terms. The new arrangement still sees Telstra disconnect premises as the NBN is connected there, except for when the service uses either Telstra’s existing copper or hybrid-fibre coaxial (HFC) networks. In that case, Telstra will transfer ownership of the connectivity assets (that is: the fibre/copper and the ongoing maintenance and operation of said assets) to NBN Co. Telstra has negotiated the deal so that it will still deliver Foxtel over the HFC networks after it’s transferred to NBN Co for uninterrupted service for customers. Under the new agreement, Telstra still isn’t getting $11 billion in a lump sum: the payment schedule is still tied to the roll-out of the NBN.

As a result of the new deal, Telstra CEO David Thodey said that the company and its shareholders have been “kept whole” based on the value of the transaction resembling what it signed back in 2011. NBN Co CEO Bill Morrow said at the same press conference this afternoon that the new agreement will allow the company to “shave years off the NBN rollout schedule.” “In the last six years, we have connected 300,000 users. In the next six years, we want to scale up to 8 million users,” Morrow said, praising the new agreement as it no longer required Aussie families to “have their gardens…and driveways” dug up. Under the old fibre-to-the-home plan, the NBN Co would dig up streets to lay fibre to every home. The new agreement formalises the fibre-to-the-node plan, which allows for existing copper to cover the last mile between street-based fibre nodes and the homes themselves.

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  #1197794 15-Dec-2014 14:09
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Nice wall of text there :/







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  #1197795 15-Dec-2014 14:10
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Yeah I know, I cannot get the editor to format it

 

 

 

It jsut drops all the Line breaks,

 
 
 
 




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  #1197799 15-Dec-2014 14:14
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Argh, I give up, it just keeps dumping all the line breaks - HELP

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  #1197800 15-Dec-2014 14:14
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I almost feel sorry for them over in Australia, that is the solution that was rolled out here some years ago wasn't it (Are we FTTN - I thought we were)?

They are building an out of date network 10 years too late. A couple of work colleagues I talk to in Australia a bit think they have got amazing internet at 8-10mbps download.

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  #1197802 15-Dec-2014 14:15
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im constantly stunned with decisions made over there.... 




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  #1197830 15-Dec-2014 14:55
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trig42: (Are we FTTN - I thought we were)?

Yep.

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  #1197884 15-Dec-2014 16:09
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Behodar:
trig42: (Are we FTTN - I thought we were)?

Yep.


That was the 4 billion that Telecom in the day spent rolling out FTTN to deliver 80% of the country ADSL2+ or VDSL and finished back in 2011.

 
 
 
 


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  #1197902 15-Dec-2014 16:24
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wellygary: Argh, I give up, it just keeps dumping all the line breaks - HELP

 

 

Can't you just manually insert some breaks by typing 'br' enclosed with those other symbols that I just tried to type but wouldn't display? What are those angular bracket things called, anyway?

 

 

 

 





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  #1197946 15-Dec-2014 16:59
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trig42: I almost feel sorry for them over in Australia, that is the solution that was rolled out here some years ago wasn't it (Are we FTTN - I thought we were)?

They are building an out of date network 10 years too late. A couple of work colleagues I talk to in Australia a bit think they have got amazing internet at 8-10mbps download.


Already, we dread playing games with Australian broadband users as hosts. We get better connections from most users on the west coast of the United States and sometimes as far as the other coast.

I had a look at the Net Index broadband statistics by country, state or city (Mbps) which are approximately:
16 Australia
25 NZ
41 California

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  #1197949 15-Dec-2014 17:04
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FTTN with fast copper access will be a huge improvement for much of Australia.  As much as they should have been there ~10 years ago, can't change that now.

And at least putting FTTH on the end will be a little easier than rolling out the whole thing.



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  #1197954 15-Dec-2014 17:12
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ubergeeknz: FTTN with fast copper access will be a huge improvement for much of Australia.  As much as they should have been there ~10 years ago, can't change that now.

And at least putting FTTH on the end will be a little easier than rolling out the whole thing.

 

 

Yeah but to have the head of the NBN come out and say that one of the reasons this is such a great deal is that

 

 

"lawns would no longer have to be dug up, which they previously needed to be so that fibre could be laid."

 

 

Is pretty Lame in my opinion,

 

 

and it is becoming fairly clear that in the long term fibre to the premise is where the game is going to end up, so this just makes that endgame a much harder place to get to...

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  #1198001 15-Dec-2014 18:36
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Yep, in about 4-6 years I might get here in Melbourne what I had when left NZ in 2011.




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  #1198009 15-Dec-2014 18:51
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plambrechtsen:
Behodar:
trig42: (Are we FTTN - I thought we were)?

Yep.


That was the 4 billion that Telecom in the day spent rolling out FTTN to deliver 80% of the country ADSL2+ or VDSL and finished back in 2011.


(because it was required to by the Government)

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  #1198020 15-Dec-2014 19:12
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What's with all these posts saying how good our fixed line broadband is? I guess we'll need to start bashing something else now, like how poor our mobile broadband speeds are :)




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  #1198036 15-Dec-2014 19:50
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coffeebaron: What's with all these posts saying how good our fixed line broadband is? I guess we'll need to start bashing something else now, like how poor our mobile broadband speeds are :)


It's terrible, third world, something must be done etc

http://www.netindex.com/mdownload/


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