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  #531465 10-Oct-2011 12:00
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This law, and any like it, are not YOUR friend. Any enemy of yours - or even a bored teenager - can accuse you, and YOU have to spend money in court to prove you didn't.

That's how the anti-porn law passed by the Shipley crew in the 90s works. 

Guilty until proven inncent.

So it's easy to stitch someone up: just hide some kiddy porn in their garage and then tip off the police.

They are GUILTY.  

NZ uses these laws so they don't have to spend money on prosecution / enforcement.

The justice system is VERY cheap if everyone is guilty all the time....and the powers that be could potentially get to decide who gets picked off.

Wide open to abuse. Few balance.  


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  #531473 10-Oct-2011 12:26
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tonyhughes: Still sitting on zero notices received here. Had more phone calls from worried customers than anything else.

Hint: Don't infringe = no problem.

The number of customer I have seen over the past 12 months where their data has been used up by torrents run by somebody other than my customer is around 20 to 30.

The ways this has happened is due to poorly secured wifi or their username and password for their connection being guessed.

While ISP's take steps to protect customers from these sort of things there is only they can do. Don't infringe = no problem may be a fairly safe bet for the security consious Geekzone crowd but does not cut it for a law that presumes guilt.

I agree with most of the sentiment of your message.

To clarify mine: "If no infringing activity occurs on your connection, you have nothing to worry about."

Securing your network is a totally different topic (but yes, relevant in light of this stupid law).

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  #535753 20-Oct-2011 18:44

all very interesting, love it :)

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  #537580 26-Oct-2011 09:51
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So have any notices been sent out yet? ISPs?
Or has anyone received one??


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  #538725 28-Oct-2011 13:55
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There's a user on a private tracker that says they got one for downloading a movie but has since deleted the notice, so not sure if its true or not.

Edit: Just re-read the post, says they got the notice a year and a half ago.

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  #538727 28-Oct-2011 13:57
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Still not a single notice received here.

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  #538750 28-Oct-2011 14:45
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Any comment from ISPs on what is happening to P2P traffic?

I know they came out and said it dropped just after this came into palce, but made comments about how they expected it to go back up, anyone heard anything more...

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  #538753 28-Oct-2011 14:52
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tonyhughes: Still not a single notice received here.

Maybe it was never a problem then, and the law as never needed.

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  #539847 1-Nov-2011 12:07
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  #539870 1-Nov-2011 12:48
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the stupid thing is it would have been cheaper to send the 5 people the Rhianna album than the $25 to send the notice,(i know stupid argument but its a stupid law)

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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  #539878 1-Nov-2011 13:08
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who listen to rihanna anyway?

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  #539880 1-Nov-2011 13:08
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  #539881 1-Nov-2011 13:11
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Well, obviously that's why they had to download the album...

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  #539891 1-Nov-2011 13:26
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nakedmolerat: who listen to rihanna anyway?

Obviously only stupid people :)

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