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  Reply # 584451 21-Feb-2012 12:15
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I'm still waiting for evidence our caps are hampering the average NZers broadband usage. Nobody has yet presented me with a compelling case as to how that is occuring.

In the US it's pretty much the norm now to find "unlimited" connections (which are the norm) from all major players to be capped at ~250GB. Despite this, average broadband usage in the US is roughly 20GB per month. Predictions from various sources predict this will hit ~60GB by 2015. This figure still represents the average user using 1/4 of their monthly cap.

Here in NZ estimates seem to put the average monthly usage at somewhere between 10GB to 15GB now. Nobody I've spoken to seems to have an accurate figure of what this is, but it's safe to say it's doubled from the ~6GB that was talked about around a year ago.

Sure we have plenty of people using 60GB + per month. I know people who use 100 GB + per month, but getting back to averages I fail to see how the average NZer's use of the internet is being hampered by caps.

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  Reply # 584453 21-Feb-2012 12:19
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sbiddle: Agreed. I think the groups that talk about it here, aren't typical.

Having said that, families with tween or teens are using considerably more data than they used to, but it's up to their parents to determine if they are prepared for that usage.

 
 
 
 


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I'd be interested in seeing the average usage of a Netflix or Hulu subscriber in the States. We don't have services like that due to our data caps. 




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sbiddle: I'm still waiting for evidence our caps are hampering the average NZers broadband usage. Nobody has yet presented me with a compelling case as to how that is occuring.

In the US it's pretty much the norm now to find "unlimited" connections (which are the norm) from all major players to be capped at ~250GB. Despite this, average broadband usage in the US is roughly 20GB per month. Predictions from various sources predict this will hit ~60GB by 2015. This figure still represents the average user using 1/4 of their monthly cap.

Here in NZ estimates seem to put the average monthly usage at somewhere between 10GB to 15GB now. Nobody I've spoken to seems to have an accurate figure of what this is, but it's safe to say it's doubled from the ~6GB that was talked about around a year ago.

Sure we have plenty of people using 60GB + per month. I know people who use 100 GB + per month, but getting back to averages I fail to see how the average NZer's use of the internet is being hampered by caps.

I think this sounds about right. We are the 1% of Internet users. ;)

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  Reply # 584456 21-Feb-2012 12:20
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lokhor: I'd be interested in seeing the average usage of a Netflix or Hulu subscriber in the States. We don't have services like that due to our data caps. 

I have found that Spotify uses around 8MB a song and Netflix uses around 1.2GB movie (depending on length/quality for both).

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  Reply # 584457 21-Feb-2012 12:21
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This discussion is now wildly from the original topic and perhaps for the sake of keeping threads relevant, we could move talk of the appropriateness of data caps to it's own topic. Not that I am a moderator, but it does seem that every thread about internet ends up in the same place :)



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  Reply # 584461 21-Feb-2012 12:27
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networkn: This discussion is now wildly from the original topic and perhaps for the sake of keeping threads relevant, we could move talk of the appropriateness of data caps to it's own topic. Not that I am a moderator, but it does seem that every thread about internet ends up in the same place :)


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  Reply # 584462 21-Feb-2012 12:29
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lokhor: I'd be interested in seeing the average usage of a Netflix or Hulu subscriber in the States. We don't have services like that due to our data caps. 


It's more likely due to licensing issues.
 




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  Reply # 584466 21-Feb-2012 12:33
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lokhor: I'd be interested in seeing the average usage of a Netflix or Hulu subscriber in the States. We don't have services like that due to our data caps. 


It's more likely due to licensing issues.
 

Nope.

 

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  Reply # 584475 21-Feb-2012 12:38
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Apart from the licencing issues, I fail to see why netflix can't enter the country on the current infrastructure.

Surely the Netflix servers would be hosted in NZ and traffic would be local. Our average bandwith should more than support it.

The only think holding it back right now are the caps.

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  Reply # 584483 21-Feb-2012 12:53
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BraaiGuy: Apart from the licencing issues, I fail to see why netflix can't enter the country on the current infrastructure.

Surely the Netflix servers would be hosted in NZ and traffic would be local. Our average bandwith should more than support it.

The only think holding it back right now are the caps.


For customers on EUBA or WVS DSL conenctions, or LLU connections it could be done right now as Chorus don't do any dimensioning. IE the ISPs could provide Netflix traffic free assuming their PPP terminators are close to a Netflix POP. Wouldn't be possible on BUBA though

However if everyone started increasing their usage I bet Chorus would enable dimensioning.







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  Reply # 584511 21-Feb-2012 13:17
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BraaiGuy:

The only think holding it back right now are the caps.


I completely disagree. It's the rights.

NZs broadband infrastructure hasn't discouraged iTunes, alright Apple is good at doing whatever it is doing worldwide but still. 

I'm not a fan of government intervention but I can't see anything short of that changing things. 
 




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  Reply # 584512 21-Feb-2012 13:19
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crackrdbycracku:
BraaiGuy:

The only think holding it back right now are the caps.


I completely disagree. It's the rights.

Did you even bother to read my above post?

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crackrdbycracku:
BraaiGuy:

The only think holding it back right now are the caps.


I completely disagree. It's the rights.

Did you even bother to read my above post?



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  Reply # 584542 21-Feb-2012 13:57
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Looks fine to me.

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