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# 204388 29-Sep-2016 13:32
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Hi,

 

I am planning on replacing my aging 8 year old machine. However, although I knew a lot about hardware back then, I havn't kept up with everything now. I have a fair idea of what I want, however I want to make sure everything is compatible, and will do what I need it to.

 

The system will be mainly utilised for office type work. I do a lot of multi-tasking, and will have Chrome open with many tabs, streaming music from Google play or YouTube, while I work. I also have a number of emails open with emClient, a number of windows explorer windows, copying files, and also Openoffice documents and spreadsheets open all at once.

 

I currently run 2 screens, and if the motherboard supports it, I have a 3rd old and small screen I would like to run. Ideally I would like to stay with on-board graphics, as I don't do ANY gaming these days. (That's the PS4's job)

 

The current parts I am looking at are:

 

Case: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CHAAER70272/Aerocool-DS-Cube---Orange---Case-Silent-mATXMini-I

 

PSU: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/PSUFSP2400/FSP-400W-80Plus-Silver-PSU-99-APF-24PIN-1-62PIN-1

 

MB: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDGBM3525/Gigabyte-GA-H110M-S2H-Intel-H110-Chipset-for-LGA11

 

CPU: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CPUIT6700K/Intel-Skylake-Core-i7-6700K-40Ghz-8MB-LGA-1151--Un

 

CPU Cooling: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/FANINT1150/Intel-Original-CPU-Fan--OEM-Package--for-Socket-LG

 

RAM: 2x https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMKHX2885760/Kingston-HyperX-Fury-16GB-DDR4-SDRAM-Memory-Module

 

SSD: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/HDDSAM3250/Samsung-850-EVO-MZ-75E250BW-250GB--3D-V-NAND-SATA

 

DVD: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/DVWLGH225/LG-GH24NSD1-SATA-Internal-SATA-DVD-WRITER-Black-co

 

I am looking at running Windows 10 on it, and have another 2TB HDD that I will be placing in it.

 

What are your thoughts? Will everything work together, and do what I need it to?


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  # 1642615 29-Sep-2016 13:51
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If you want an office computer, IMHO you should look at something extensively tested by the manufacturer and with a next business day on site warranty.  Something like https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/WKSHDT3056723/HP-ProDesk-600-G2-SFF-Intel-i5-6500-8GB-DDR4-RAM-2 and you can add a bit more RAM if you like (Kingston is fine - check their web site for a compatability table).  Bolt in your big spinning drive and you are away.

 

 





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  # 1642625 29-Sep-2016 14:01
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Do check motherboard is compatible with RAM, and test the RAM when it arrives (HCI Memtest is better than memtest x86). Buying premade will give you a more reliable system. You only need a K processor if you want to overclock.


 
 
 
 




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  # 1642627 29-Sep-2016 14:05
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As much as I like the idea of a pre-made system, that one is over $500 more than the price of the parts I listed, and out of my budget unfortunately. It would be nice however!

 

I've got nothing against making a system, I've done countless numbers in the past, it's just that I'm a bit out of touch with the new specifications etc.

 

As for over-clocking, I'm not going down that avenue. Not into fiddling around with it all, don't have as much spare time as I once did. As far as I can work out the RAM is compatible with the MB. Am I missing something?


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  # 1642630 29-Sep-2016 14:17
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cjmack:

 

I currently run 2 screens, and if the motherboard supports it, I have a 3rd old and small screen I would like to run. Ideally I would like to stay with on-board graphics, as I don't do ANY gaming these days. (That's the PS4's job)

 

MB: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDGBM3525/Gigabyte-GA-H110M-S2H-Intel-H110-Chipset-for-LGA11

 

 

According the the manufacturer specs, the motherboard will only run two screens at a time. Also, make sure your current monitors are using a compatible resolution/refresh rate on the appropriate connectors:

 

 

1 x D-Sub port, supporting a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
1 x DVI-D port, supporting a maximum resolution of 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz
1 x HDMI port, supporting a maximum resolution of 4096 x 2160 24 Hz

 

Support for up to 2 displays at the same time.

 

 

 


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  # 1642676 29-Sep-2016 14:42
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My two cents worth - for parts, these guys' prices are far better than PBTech's - https://www.dtconline.co.nz/

 

 

 

I've been using them for a couple of years now and they have always been excellent.

 

 

 

Oh, and free shipping. Plus 2% discount for direct account payment.




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  # 1642759 29-Sep-2016 15:52
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Thanks for the input. I had a look at that supplier, and the prices were around the same as what I am getting. I have a hefty discount through my employer at PB, so it works for me. I used to use Computer Store, but I had enough of the fair to poor customer service and generic brand items that don't even work at all.

 

As for the monitors, I can manage with 2 for now, and may add a graphics card at a later point if I want to bump it up a step.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1642782 29-Sep-2016 16:47
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1) You don't really need an i7-6700K, you are buying a motherboard without a Z170 chipset. So any cpu with a "K" is essentially not worth paying extra for.
2) Do you really need an i7? If you do get the i7-6700 (non K) if you don't a i5-6400 or i5-6500 will do fine. Also if you buy a non k chip, it will come with a heatsink. So you have already saved yourself a few bucks.

 

 








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  # 1642834 29-Sep-2016 17:21
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I really just wanted the fastest CPU/RAM combo I could buy. Will I notice much of a difference going back to a non-K, or even an i5? If it's minimal then I might just do that.


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  # 1642862 29-Sep-2016 18:06
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cjmack:

 

I really just wanted the fastest CPU/RAM combo I could buy. Will I notice much of a difference going back to a non-K, or even an i5? If it's minimal then I might just do that.

 

 

if you are just doing office work then unlikely.

 

the "K" variants are unlocked meaning you can overclock them but there is no way in hell I would be overclocking with that cooler TBH I wouldn't even use it period





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  # 1642913 29-Sep-2016 20:18
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hyperman:

 

 

 

if you are just doing office work then unlikely.

 

the "K" variants are unlocked meaning you can overclock them but there is no way in hell I would be overclocking with that cooler TBH I wouldn't even use it period

 

 

Thanks for that, I wasn't aware of this. I have gone for the same one, but without the K on it. This one here: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CPUIT6702/Intel-Skylake-Core-i7-6700-34Ghz-8MB-LGA-1151-4-Co and saved some $$$ thank you. I just can't work out if this comes with heat sink & fan included, although one of the reviews refers to one being included.


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  # 1642915 29-Sep-2016 20:24
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Yeh go with that its a few dollars cheaper and I am about 90% sure it will come with the heatsink. That stock heatsink will be fine in that case.

The Only reason you would buy a k chip is if you want to overclock it. And to do that you need a z chipset. Since you are not getting one, it's a waste. Go spend the extra dollars on a nicer i/o device. Like a mouse, keyboard, headphones or monitor.







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  # 1642937 29-Sep-2016 21:11
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darylblake: Yeh go with that its a few dollars cheaper and I am about 90% sure it will come with the heatsink. That stock heatsink will be fine in that case.

The Only reason you would buy a k chip is if you want to overclock it. And to do that you need a z chipset. Since you are not getting one, it's a waste. Go spend the extra dollars on a nicer i/o device. Like a mouse, keyboard, headphones or monitor.

 

 

 

Sounds like a plan. I have also changed to a single stick of 16GB RAM so as I can easily add another later - although I think 16GB will be heaps for now considering I have 6GB shared at the moment. I will let you know how I get on when I purchase it all at the end of the month.


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  # 1642947 29-Sep-2016 21:19
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In theory having two 8GB sticks will be slightly faster than one 16GB stick. I have 16GB in my old i7-2600K machine, even processing lots of RAW images it's still fine. If you're processing a huge number of very high resolution images or video more than 16GB could help, but there's not much that most people do that could benefit from more than 16GB right now.


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  # 1643206 30-Sep-2016 11:18
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cjmack:

 

I've got nothing against making a system, I've done countless numbers in the past, it's just that I'm a bit out of touch with the new specifications etc.

 

 

or get one premade by PBtech(or whoever) with those parts, or get one of their generic PC's

Nothing wrong with building yourself, but any weird hardware issue YOU will have to sort it out yourself: ie trace exactly what part is failing then try & get a warranty
Prebuilt , if it has issues, you take the whole PC back & say fix it.

 

 


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