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  #2440287 17-Mar-2020 20:15
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Thanks. Just weird that I saw on one of the the web sites that it is not user replaceable.

  #2440330 17-Mar-2020 21:25
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Brend: Thanks. Just weird that I saw on one of the the web sites that it is not user replaceable.

 

some are not that simple, takes a little more work than that.


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  #2440696 18-Mar-2020 13:48
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Does anyone know where I can find a proper list of battery spec for each of the CyberPower units?

 

The lot at CyberPower can't tell me. I am looking at the following models:

 

VP700ELCD

 

VP1000ELCD

 

VP1200ELCD




  #2440745 18-Mar-2020 15:16
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its in the owners manual

 

https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/File/GetCyberpowerFileByDocId/UM-19110005-01

 

700VA 12V/7Ah x 1

 

1000VA 12V/9Ah x 1

 

1200VA 12V/7.2Ah x 2

 

1600VA 12V/9Ah x 2


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  #2440753 18-Mar-2020 15:26
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Jase2985:

 

its in the owners manual

 

https://www.cyberpower.com/au/en/File/GetCyberpowerFileByDocId/UM-19110005-01

 

700VA 12V/7Ah x 1

 

1000VA 12V/9Ah x 1

 

1200VA 12V/7.2Ah x 2

 

1600VA 12V/9Ah x 2

 

 

Thanks. Talking to our friendly neighbourhood PBTechie, he said that the VP series is probably sealed and one can not get into the unit to replace the battery. He said it is designed to be discarded and another to be bought (echoing what the lot at CyberPower told me)

 

So I am in 2 minds about these units


  #2440760 18-Mar-2020 15:39
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the cheap dynamix ones are the same but you can, if you know your way round electronics get in and replace the batteries. it does mean pulling circuit boards out and moving the transformer etc, but they can be done in about 30 mins or so.

 

generally speaking the inverter and transformer etc dont wear out, but the batteries do. so you could get multiple battery replacements from your UPS before its reached its failure point.

 

really its up to you what your comfortable with. id still take a $30 battery replacement and 30 mins of my time, to replace the battery over buying a new UPS. its also less e-waste.


Kraven
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  #2440767 18-Mar-2020 15:52
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I have the Cyberpower BRICs BR700ELCD - battery is user replaceable. Largest in that line is 1200VA (BR1200ELCD).




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  #2440769 18-Mar-2020 15:54
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Jase2985:

 

the cheap dynamix ones are the same but you can, if you know your way round electronics get in and replace the batteries. it does mean pulling circuit boards out and moving the transformer etc, but they can be done in about 30 mins or so.

 

generally speaking the inverter and transformer etc dont wear out, but the batteries do. so you could get multiple battery replacements from your UPS before its reached its failure point.

 

really its up to you what your comfortable with. id still take a $30 battery replacement and 30 mins of my time, to replace the battery over buying a new UPS. its also less e-waste.

 

 

I completely agree with you!!! I will gladly spend a bit of my time to replace a battery as opposed to paying for a new unit. I want to check one of these out in a shop, but can't find a shop in Wellington that has stock in store (admittedly, I don't know where to shop most of the time for these kind of things)


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  #2440772 18-Mar-2020 15:56
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Kraven:

 

I have the Cyberpower BRICs BR700ELCD - battery is user replaceable. Largest in that line is 1200VA (BR1200ELCD).

 

 

thanks - will check them out too


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  #2440852 18-Mar-2020 19:22
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Dynamix UPS's are junk. Don't buy one.

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  #2440906 18-Mar-2020 21:23
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andrewNZ: Dynamix UPS's are junk. Don't buy one.

Please elaborate. What happened

  #2440908 18-Mar-2020 21:29
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andrewNZ: Dynamix UPS's are junk. Don't buy one.

 

i beg to differ, i have used about 30 of them (250-400w models) in a way more challenging and stressful enviroment that your average house.

 

Each UPS ran one computer as the minimum, and some had a tv and media player running off them.

 

The input power was from a generator and very very dirty, with the voltage fluctuating a lot. When the air compressor ran up (sometime 30-40 times in a day) the power would brown out for a second or so will the generator caught up, and the ups would switch to battery then back to mains. the devices kept running. There were also times when the generator would be switched off and the ups would drain right down, this happened about every 2 months or so, and they would all charge back up.

 

an ups in your house would be lucky if it switched to battery more than 3-4 times a year.

 

I only ever had one UPS fail on me and it was a DOA (Dead on arrival). i replaced a couple more because when i load tested them they only ran a couple of minutes, but they were the older ones (2+ years old) and due to it being at work the lowest replaceable unit was the UPS its self so we didn't battery swap them (not my choice, i would have if allowed).

 

so while you say anecdotally they are junk i humbly disagree with you based on the above experience.

 

this was in 2013 - 2015 so things may have changed but looking at the specs/pictures they still look like the same ones i used.

 

Cant comment on bigger ones as we never needed them.


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  #2440940 18-Mar-2020 23:21
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I've seen several fail in various environments. But by far my worst experience was one I purchased for home.

1) The PC connected to it had so many issues I had to disconnect it from UPS power. All issues disappeared immediately.
2) When my supply voltage dipped, the UPS boosted the power (expected), to 258V. This was within spec and not a warranty issue.
3) The final act was when the battery died and the UPS ignored it and tried to burn my house down. It just kept charging a internally shorted battery, the unit got so hot it had warped the case when I found it, and it was still trying.

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  #2441038 19-Mar-2020 09:38
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To add to my confusion, I am looking at something slightly above my set price range, but I might consider it .... ...

 

APC Back-UPS CS Series Tower UPS, 650VA, Offline/Standby

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2531330 30-Jul-2020 12:42
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Hi team,

 

I'm hoping I can piggyback on this topic please.

 

I've got a Dynamix Defender 1200 and a Synology 1515+. I understand the Dynamix Defender is compatible with Synology products and should enable the NAS to shutdown in case of a power failure, but how do I actually set this up? I understand there's a USB cable, but what else do I need to enable the communication? Should there be a piece of software that I install on the DSM?

Many thanks!

 

 

 

Cheers
Clemens


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