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#251622 3-Jul-2019 12:57
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APparently in response to AMD's Radeon cards about to be released ...

 

in the US it will sell for the same price as the current cards so it's a free upgrade 





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  #2269260 3-Jul-2019 13:02
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Free upgrade? No, if you have to pay for it, then it's just a better value upgrade. 

 

Unless you can walk in with one eligble card and walk out with the new one at no cost, it's not "free" as such :) 

 

edit: Better value is still better though.

 

 




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  #2269305 3-Jul-2019 13:33
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if you haven't bought one you will get a free upgrade, but yeah if you bought one then you won't 





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  #2269307 3-Jul-2019 13:43
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Batman:

 

if you haven't bought one you will get a free upgrade, but yeah if you bought one then you won't 

 

 

Neither way will you be getting a free upgrade. They have EOL one range and bought in a more powerful at the same price. You could apply your logic to any next gen product that is introduced at the same price point.

 

 


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  #2269308 3-Jul-2019 13:46
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It is not a free upgrade if you have to pay again to get the new model. It is like saying every new iPhone release every year is a free upgrade because it sells for same price as last years model..





Do whatever you want to do man.

  

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  #2269311 3-Jul-2019 13:48
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Until we see what the AIB partners are charging for theirs here, I wouldn't bet on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they used it to bump up the price slightly in our market. I will be happy to be proven wrong though.

 

Performance uplift model-to-model is good though, seems like they have effectively just bumped each card to the next rung up the ladder. Sucks if you already bought the slow version though.

 

Clearly Nvidia is worried about Navi, so it makes me more curious how good Navi will be, unlike the previous lackluster releases.


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  #2269352 3-Jul-2019 13:55
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There was an internal memo at Intel leaked a few weeks ago regarding the threat that Intel believes AMD now poses to them. It was reasonably clear that AMD may outperform Intel in some product ranges this year and perhaps next gen, and what Intel expects it's party line response to be (taking the focus off raw performance stats and focusing instead on feature sets that AMD's processors don't have or are behind in). 

 

Generally, companies will have 3-4 Generations of products in the pipeline and drip feed them to the market to maximise the sales, and I expect Intel may go ahead and skip it's following generation, and move to the generation beyond this, to gain performance lead again. They will take a hit on revenue to do this, but in reality have just shortened the pipeline somewhat in the short to medium term.

 

 

 

All in all I expect it to be largely to the benefit of the consumer, and we may find that instead of the incremental processing speed upgrades we have been getting for the last 10-15 years, we may see some double digit boosts within a single generation.

 

 


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  #2273772 10-Jul-2019 10:11
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Anyone have info on when these 'super' cards might be available in New Zealand?
I'm keen to see pricing on these vs the new Navi cards as well as seeing if the existing 2070 will see a price drop until they clear existing stock.

 
 
 
 


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networkn:

There was an internal memo at Intel leaked a few weeks ago regarding the threat that Intel believes AMD now poses to them. It was reasonably clear that AMD may outperform Intel in some product ranges this year and perhaps next gen, and what Intel expects it's party line response to be (taking the focus off raw performance stats and focusing instead on feature sets that AMD's processors don't have or are behind in). 

 

Generally, companies will have 3-4 Generations of products in the pipeline and drip feed them to the market to maximise the sales, and I expect Intel may go ahead and skip it's following generation, and move to the generation beyond this, to gain performance lead again. They will take a hit on revenue to do this, but in reality have just shortened the pipeline somewhat in the short to medium term.

 

 

 

All in all I expect it to be largely to the benefit of the consumer, and we may find that instead of the incremental processing speed upgrades we have been getting for the last 10-15 years, we may see some double digit boosts within a single generation.

 

 

 

 

Wish I bought some AMD stock back when they released Ryzen.. their stock was as little as $2.50 USD in 2016.. now their stock is $33 USD and re quickly approaching intel stock prices !

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  #2273928 10-Jul-2019 12:27
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It would be lovely if Nvidia let people send in there old RTX card for a free upgrade to a super card..

 

I can't see many people buying these if they already have a RTX card.

 

Next year will be interesting once Intel come to the party with there lineup.


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Batman:

 

APparently in response to AMD's Radeon cards about to be released ...

 

in the US it will sell for the same price as the current cards so it's a free upgrade 

 

 

 

 

I learned a long time ago that nothing is free.


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  #2273962 10-Jul-2019 13:20
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dellor:

 

It would be lovely if Nvidia let people send in there old RTX card for a free upgrade to a super card..

 

I can't see many people buying these if they already have a RTX card.

 

Next year will be interesting once Intel come to the party with there lineup.

 

 

Unfortunately that is the flip-side to AMD stepping up its competition v. Nvidia. The Super range is all about staying competitive with AMDs Navi products, so they only care about your money if you are at risk of spending it on Team Red. Hate to say it, but if you already bought an RTX 2060/2070/2080 you are SOL.

 

And since they already have the not insignificant task of clearing out their current supply of cards, which given the 5700/XT seems to be better or equal at the same price point, they are gonna have to start making price cuts to shift units.

 

I would hope that while Chipzilla has been dragging the chain on the CPU side of things, they are ready for a 3 way fight with AMD and Nvidia when they launch. But yeah, guess we will see.


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GlacialPace: Anyone have info on when these 'super' cards might be available in New Zealand?
I'm keen to see pricing on these vs the new Navi cards as well as seeing if the existing 2070 will see a price drop until they clear existing stock.

 

they already are

 

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER Gaming OC 8GB Graphics Card  = $ 819 .00

 

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING OC 8GC Graphics Card  = $ 849 .00


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  #2273967 10-Jul-2019 13:31
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I don't really follow AMD but are the new Radeon cards better then the RTX cards by nvidia prompting them to bring out the Super range?

 

If so that's got to be a first Nvidia always had more powerful cards then AMD...


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dellor:

 

I don't really follow AMD but are the new Radeon cards better then the RTX cards by nvidia prompting them to bring out the Super range?

 

If so that's got to be a first Nvidia always has more powerful cards then AMD...

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't say better, but they are competitive and and better "value" in the price range they are competing in.  


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