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#169833 27-Mar-2015 13:08
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Hi,

Haven't posted in here for a long time now please bear with me.

I am with Slingshot Fibre 100/30 and current very satisfied with the internet speed using my computer which is connected via LAN. But there is a huge drop in net speeds using WIFI. Now i know this is expected but i was thinking if the speed can be improved by changing the momem/router supplied by them?

If the answer is yes then can yuo suggest a reasonably priced gear please around $150 - $200 range. And also is it easy enough to configure?

Thanks in advance!!!

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  #1269023 27-Mar-2015 13:32
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what modem do you currently have?

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  #1269024 27-Mar-2015 13:41
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What is a huge drop?

 
 
 
 


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  #1269025 27-Mar-2015 13:42
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This is common.  Check your equipment first.  Chances are its a compatibility issue or your computer wireless is slow.

What speed is your computer reporting for the wireless connection to the router?  What is the make/model of your wireless card/dongle/chipset?  What is the model of the router and what speed is the wireless capable of running ?




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  #1269027 27-Mar-2015 13:43
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Hey thanks for thr reply. Ill post it when i get home later i believe its a thompson ine but not sure about the model.



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  #1269078 27-Mar-2015 15:11
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Jase2985: what modem do you currently have?


So currently im using the supplied modem/roiter by slingshot which is Tripleplay 150. I mean it does it's job for my desktop via LAN. I get at least 90mb down/ 20 up but once i do a speedtest on my htc one via wifi downspeed doesn't even reach 20 mbps. Upload is roughly the same at 20mbps.

There is also a huge signal drop the moment i leave the room where the modem/router is from full signal to ( 4 bars) to 2 bars.



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  #1269080 27-Mar-2015 15:13
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Dynamic: This is common.  Check your equipment first.  Chances are its a compatibility issue or your computer wireless is slow.

What speed is your computer reporting for the wireless connection to the router?  What is the make/model of your wireless card/dongle/chipset?  What is the model of the router and what speed is the wireless capable of running ?


Hey sorry didn'y clarify my post. I dont have issues with internet speed for my computer as it is connected via cable my concern is the wifi signal/speed of the modem/router hence i was looking for suggestions whether it's worth buying a modem/router and advise on configuring it.

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  #1269083 27-Mar-2015 15:21
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Okie doke....  so the router can do Wireless N, 1 channel, up to 150mbps.  Under ideal conditions.  IF the computer is even connecting at 150mbps.

Can you check how fast the computer is connecting to the wireless while you are in the same room a few meters away from the router?  It may only be negotiating a 56mbps speed or similar, less wireless overheads which might make it the equivalent of a 10mbps cable connection (and so rubbish compared with the 100mbps cable you can currently use).

I've not done a lot of real-world testing, but for wireless to keep up with a 100mbps cable you would need a better than 250mbps wireless connection.  To achieve that would mean a new router plus good compatibility with the wireless in the computer assuming the computer has a decent wireless chip.  I've seen a LOT of 150mbps capable wireless gear refuse to connect at faster than 56mbps due to compatibility issues that you just don't get with cable connections.

Still awaiting the model of the wireless in the computer which is critical information if you want further help.




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  #1269116 27-Mar-2015 16:08
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hes measuring the speed on his phone over wifi, PC is connected via ethernet :)

here is an example of my home network, my modem is supposedly a N modem capable of 150mbps but i have never been able to connect at more than 65mbps. Router is a Thompson TG589nv2

via speedtest.net
PC via Ethernet:
Ping: 5ms Down: 51.66Mbps Up: 9.81Mbps

All devices are less than 2m from router, router is the only one in the area on channel 1 (`-40dbm attenuation) and all other wifi signals in the area have more than -80dbm attenuation

Ipad2 via wifi and only device connected (Wireless Speed according to router and device 65Mbps)
Ping: 12ms Down: 37.96Mbps Up: 8.91Mbps

Asus TF700T Android (4.4.4) Tablet running CM11 only device connected (Wireless Speed according to router and device 65Mbps)
Ping: 12ms Down: 23.73Mbps Up: 9.74Mbps

Asus Windows Vista Laptop 5 years old only device connected (Wireless Speed according to router 65Mbps laptop thinks 130Mbps)
Ping: 7ms Down: 39.55Mbps Up: 9.83Mbps

Sony Xperia SP Cellphone Android (4.1.2) (Wireless Speed according to router and device 65Mbps)
Ping: 5ms Down: 38.90Mbps Up: 9.13Mbps

MSI GE60 Windows 8 laptop. Intel 3160 wireless AC network card (Wireless Speed according to router and device 65Mbps)
Ping: 7ms Down: 42.37Mbps Up: 9.95Mbps

As you can see its not an issue with the built in wifi, its an issue with the way the devices can handle the wifi. as the Ipad can make the most of the avaliable bandwidth all the time, the laptop has issues some of the time with lower speeds which makes me think its more susceptible to changes in with routers wifi speed, while the others for some reason or the other cant make full use of it. The Sony phone is funny as most of the time it will only speed test at about 20mbps down and 9 up. but sometimes it does the higher 30's. no idea why

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  #1269117 27-Mar-2015 16:11
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Jase2985 that is fantastic information.  Thank you for sharing - I'll bookmark this page for my future reference.  :)




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  #1269122 27-Mar-2015 16:16
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not the best testing to speedtest.net as im "limited" by my connection. but seeing as nothing connects at more than 65mbps, its not really that limited, i can do a LAN speedtest from my AC capiable laptop to my desktop (on wired) and it gets at most about 44mbps both ways.

At MIT using their WiFi over 5ghz on "N" and connected at 150mbps i can get about 105mbps each way.

im tossing up getting a new modem/router but its not going to make my internet browsing faster, and any downloading i do is via my wired PC, i just remotly connect to it :) even streaming to my laptop is fine at the other end of the house with 1/2 signal strength (about 65dB)

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  #1269123 27-Mar-2015 16:20
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i find more often than not its a device problem coupled with a cheap wifi N device. for some reason from my readings they were classed as n150 but could never deliver more than 65mbps at their max. it is the case for my router.

i should test my phone at uni and see how it goes there. its more than likely a device limitation.

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  #1269136 27-Mar-2015 16:50
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65 means that you are running at 20MHz, which is about all you really can do on 2.4GHz because of the conjestion and the fact that it hogs over half the band if you go to 40MHz wide channels.

130 is what you would get reported from a dual chain wifi on 20 MHz.

Get the AP closer to where you are consuming the data, and get some 5GHz AP's if you can. I got some dirt cheap US$20 ones off aliexpress that do dual band, can be an AP and have good 5GHz signal (2.4 is pretty crap but oh well)

Plug one in, put cat5 back to the router and get much better speeds in the rooms that you use it. Or splash out on some AC gear, but really 40Mhz N on 5Ghz is enough to do everything you need right now, best cheap out and get AC gear when it comes down in price and you can get gig internet speeds to actually use it.





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  #1269143 27-Mar-2015 17:13
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richms: 65 means that you are running at 20MHz, which is about all you really can do on 2.4GHz because of the conjestion and the fact that it hogs over half the band if you go to 40MHz wide channels.

130 is what you would get reported from a dual chain wifi on 20 MHz.



interesting you say that, as the thompson tg589nv2 is reported as having n150 but there is no where in any of the menus to change it to a 40mhz wide channel.

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  #1269144 27-Mar-2015 17:17
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If you don't mind parting with a reasonable sum of money, I found my wireless speeds increased significantly (about 30%) when I bridged an ASUS RT-AC68U router to my Spark-supplied Technicolour modem. It has concurrent dual band wireless and you can set up additional guest networks on either 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz frequency, which is great if you want to put a single device (like your media streamer) on it's own frequency or set time limits on how long the kids can stay connected to the 'net. It gives a really strong signal throughout my two-storey house. I did a lot of research before I got it, and virtually all the reviewers agreed it was one of the fastest wireless routers you could get. I've been delighted with the improvement it made to my VDSL connection's wireless speeds.




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  #1269145 27-Mar-2015 17:18
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It will probably do it if the device also supports it. Its off by default on several laptops I have looked at because performance is typically a lot worse than 20MHz, and some devices will just not support it at all.

It may also only enable it if the extension channel is clear, which it almost never is. Thats part of some spec for wifi but its part that everyone ignores because what is important for end users is seeing a larger number in the connection statistics because that is like signal bars - all but useless other than to make people feel good.




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