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#255913 5-Sep-2019 21:39
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https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/SWHTPL1023/TP-Link-TL-SG1024D-24-Port-Gigabit-Unmanaged-Switc

 

This was mentioned in another thread (https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=248040) earlier this year but there was no feedback on it, other than that it was pretty cheap for a 24-port switch (thread now locked).

 

 

 

Has anyone bought or had experience with this particular switch?  If so, any feedback that can be shared?

 

I particularly like that it is fanless - and of course the price is attractive but before taking the jump I would be interested peoples experience with it.

 

 

 

My other concern is, given that a switch is generally a 10 yr plus 'investment' for me, should I be future-proofing and getting a managed switch?  I work from home and there are two other adults in the house, both also working from home to some extent. Plus at times a few visitors and longer-term stayers.  We have had a home network for about three decades (2-3 generations of switches, with currently ~16 network switch ports in use in my office, which contains the router). Our current usage would probably not justify a managed switch but with increasingly interconnected homes (security, entertainment, wifi access points, ...) would a managed switch make more sense to cover our requirements for the next ten years?   Alas I have already long had my gold card so I suspect I may be retired before the 10 years are up, which no doubt may affect our networking needs.


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  #2311524 5-Sep-2019 22:58
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I have one. Been a few years with it. Don’t really use any of the managed features, keep meaning to.

Mines pretty fulll, but working well.




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  #2311526 5-Sep-2019 23:25
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I recently ran out of ports on my unmanaged 16 port switch, so I bought a new L3 managed one:

 

https://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?itemID=436620

 

The Ubiquiti ES-24-Lite does have a fan, but I have never heard it running as I do not think I have ever made it work hard enough to need it.  I have really enjoyed the management features.  I originally decided on a managed switch to get IGMP snooping so that I could broadcast video streams on my network using IGMP.  But I have found it very useful to be able to label each port so that I know where it connects to - I do not need to keep any records of that any more as it is all in the switch.  And it is nice to be able to see where all the traffic is going to when I am diagnosing things - each port displays current Rx and Tx speeds.  It is a full commercial grade switch with all the features you would ever want.  However, in terms of future proofing, within 10 years I would expect to be using 10 gigabit Ethernet or faster, as 1 gigabit is now significantly slower than the speed of good hard drives (let alone SSDs) and every time I am moving a multi-gigabyte video file across my network I feel the need for 10 gigabit.


 
 
 
 


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  #2311527 5-Sep-2019 23:31
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Given the fact it will be used for the next 10yrs I strongly recommend to have a look to the TL-SG1024DE which features IEEE802.1q (VLANs).





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat

 

- ISP2: 4G/LTE USB modem + TL-MR3020, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)

 

- NET: ZBOX CI329 router, 2 C2960X-48TS-L, 3 GWN7630/LR, EL1600, EL800

 

- SVR: E3C236 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, HC1 1T, N2 128G | HC2 14T, HC2 4T

 

- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV

 

- IoT (EU868): 4/14 LoRaWAN GW/Nodes, CCU3 (openHAB), Vantage Pro 2 +

 

- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MP-CNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro 

 

- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)




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  #2311712 6-Sep-2019 12:40
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Thanks for the feedback. 

 

 

 

The TL-SG1024DE was on my horizon but I was apprehensive as to whether a managed switch would require more effort and knowledge than I have to implement.  But from further reading it seems at least some of the 'smart managed' ones can be used plug & play, at least to get started. 

 

I like the stronger security, DOS prevention, link aggregation, etc relative to unmanaged.  I have seen a number of negative comments, especially re the VLAN implementation in the TL-SG1024DE though.

 

 

 

The Netgear Prosafe GS724Tv4 seems a step up in terms of future proofing for a relatively modest increase in price, and still 'smart managed'.  Better QoS, SPF ports (but only 1G?), IPv6 support, dynamic VLAN, ...  Seems about as far as can go fanless-wise?  BUT ... does this one require more knowledge to implement?  Would be great if can just plug & play to get started.  The main future-proofing limitation seems to be the lack of 10G ports but at the present time that seems to add significantly to the cost.

 

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/networking/switches/netgear-prosafe-gs724t-v4-24-ports-gigabit-smart-switch

 

 

 

The TP-Link TL-SG2424 (slightly dearer) seems comparable to the above and though 4 SPF ports they are still 1G.  Hard to determine if one or other offers any other advantages?

 

https://www.computerlounge.co.nz/shop/networking/switches/tp-link-tl-sg2424-24-port-gigabit-smart-switch

 

 

 

The Ubiquiti ES-24-Lite is a step up again but quite a lot dearer and unlikely plug & play?!  I suspect overkill for my use.

 

 

 

 


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  #2311725 6-Sep-2019 13:11
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DS248:

 

I have seen a number of negative comments, especially re the VLAN implementation in the TL-SG1024DE though.

 

 

This was before they did the f/w update. Now you can remove the default VLAN1 from the ports which was the issue before.

 

At the end, those complaints forced them to the f/w improvement and the switch works fine (have one in use).





- ISP1: OneBox FTTH modem, 1/.5G, full DS, VLAN7, VoIP + ipTV streaming flat

 

- ISP2: 4G/LTE USB modem + TL-MR3020, 100/40M data plan (wireless fallback)

 

- NET: ZBOX CI329 router, 2 C2960X-48TS-L, 3 GWN7630/LR, EL1600, EL800

 

- SVR: E3C236 32G/24T, 2 H2 16G/500G, HC1 1T, N2 128G | HC2 14T, HC2 4T

 

- USR: DeskMini 9i5, NUC8i7HVK, Aspire E5, EliteBook 840, Galaxy Tab, 4K TV

 

- IoT (EU868): 4/14 LoRaWAN GW/Nodes, CCU3 (openHAB), Vantage Pro 2 +

 

- 3D: 2 Ender-3/Pro, 4 Ultimaker 2E+/3/3+/S5, MP-CNC, EleksLaser-A3 Pro 

 

- ipPBX: GO-Box, 2 GRP2613, SPA112 (Fax & W-48, a 1948 Siemens phone)


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  #2311745 6-Sep-2019 13:43
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I've got the DE but don't (yet) use the VLAN capabilities but I will do when I get into HA. The switch was easy to set up and I don't 'manage' it as such. It's been switching away for 3-4 years and given no trouble.


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